thanks everyone!
@Divorcedalongtime yep, worse when I'm sitting down and can feel the rolls touching eachother (feel disgusted with myself typing that out). Feels comfiest lying flat/standing than anything that requires bending and fat touching other bits of fat.
@Saltired I'm very short though (5'2) and a petite build. So 8kg is quite a lot for me I think, not sure how much is in my head but I went from looking very slight to fat in the middle basically. Not fussed about clothes sizes (still fit into size 8 dresses/tops/jumpers but stopped wearing trousers/jeans, leggings are fine though).
Yep good plan, I try to have veg, cooked meals and no junk too (I think my portions are too big and I do let myself have a takeaway or eat about once a week).
@Cherryblossoms85 Thank you, I did and noticed no difference! Felt a bit better perhaps but didnt lose any weight. I did one meal a day for a bit (OMAD) which definitely worked but I couldn't sustain that, then went down to 16:8 for months but lost nothing, now eat normal 3 meals a day and gained nothing.
@EmmaEmerald Thanks, I'll try peppermint. I think I'm just hyperaware of it perhaps.
@curlymacv Yes, I wonder if theres a psychological element to it too. I used to be able to (if I wanted) breath my tummy in and look basically very slim but now even if I do that theres too much fat around my tum. I think I need to work harder with the exercise/weight loss.
@Hubblebubble DOMs is weirdly lovely, almost makes me feel like I must have worked out well.
@Lulabelleblue Thanks I'm early 30s so hopefully its not anything sinister.
@FatGirlSwim Hopefully not menopause or anything sinister at my age. I wish I could just cut out all the extra bit of me/fat from around the middle. Just find it annoying that it just wont shift despite eating well and exercising. Find that I want to wear baggy clothes to hide now.