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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think online sober community can be a bit pretentious?

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Elmo27 · 14/04/2023 13:22

I stopped drinking last year for 3.5 months after feeling I needed a break as it wasn’t serving me at that time. I’m by no means an alcoholic but more of a ‘grey area’ drinker and felt like I was starting to fancy a drink far too often, and on the odd occasion of drinking socially I often struggled to moderate and would end up with an awful hangovers and anxiety that lasted all week. So I stopped. I didn’t plan on stopping forever, I didn’t really know what my plan was I was just taking one day at a time.

I really threw myself into it and bought ‘quit lit’ and became a member of a new sober app and was really open and honest about my experience on there and received lots of support from other ex ‘grey drinkers’. I found it helpful at first, but as time went by, I started to feel pressure and like the environment was actually becoming accidentally a bit toxic, and I also started to find it quite difficult to imagine my life never being able to have a drink socially ever again. Long story short over Christmas I had a drink in moderation, and since then I’ve found I really have changed my relationship with alcohol. I am drinking again but only at the weekend and maybe 2 glasses of wine. Sometimes if I fancy a drink I still buy the AF beers some of which I love. When drinking socially I mix it up between soft drinks and alcoholic drinks and am so much more mindful - the break really did the trick.

However I’m now noticing the online sober community, as supportive as they may be when you’re sober are slightly condescending if you then decided to drink (albeit moderately) again. I spoke openly on the app about this (there are groups on there for tactical breakers and also ‘mostly’ sober people) but I felt like the general vibe from the comments was more one of pity and superiority. As if I hadn’t made a conscious choice to drink and it was a bit “we all make mistakes”. I’ve also noticed certain sober figures on Instagram who I follow saying things like “when you see a picture of someone all dressed up for a night out and you feel like you’re missing out, remember in a few hours they’ll be making a fool out of themselves and be throwing up in the toilet and will wake up hating life” and “moderating does NOT work!” And “if you drink alcohol your going to find reaching your goals so much harder than if you were alcohol free”. I feel a lot (not all) of the sober community seem to assume everyone who drinks is beneath them and they all perhaps do the same things they maybe did when they drank.

AIBU for thinking this sort of thing is really pretentious and judgmental? For the record I think anyone choosing to go completely AF is incredible whatever their reasons, and whether they had a big problem beforehand or not. I also understand that the sober community are really brilliant at supporting each other, but to those who have simply changed and improved their relationship with alcohol (but still do drink) does their support extend that far?

What are your thoughts?

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 14/04/2023 21:53

Take your issues somewhere else, HokeyNokey, I was posting in support of the OP and I'm not interested in your crap.

Coyoacan · 14/04/2023 21:54

I gave up drinking a few years ago and stopped smoking more recently. I am very live and let live as far as other people drinking and smoking. But I do not like people advocating for drinking less online, because we are all fighting the temptation to just have one drink or one cigarrette and when people like you say it is possible, that ups the temptation.

I'm glad it is working for you, but please stop shouting about it.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 14/04/2023 21:57

Elmo27, Fair enough. I was posting about my experience as a smoker as I don't have an alcohol problem. I see the two as similar in that the body doesn't need either to survive, if you see what I mean? I absolutely agree with you that people are different and one size definitely doesn't fit all in terms of solutions and experiences aren't all comparable.

I know that I can't have another cigarette because I'd start smoking again and that's where I was coming from. I probably shouldn't have posted and I'll leave it there.

I really hope you find the group that you're looking for.

Elmo27 · 14/04/2023 22:10

Coyoacan

I posted once about my experience with improving my relationship with alcohol on an app designed to do just that, it clearly isn’t the place to do that no matter how it was originally designed. Certainly not shouting about anything. This post was about putting down people who drink - not about what I’ve been saying. Also, you’re basically saying unless your a full blown addict you can’t talk about improving your life and wellbeing and your choice to quit/moderate, and that’s not fair and excludes a very large amount of people. You don’t have to identify as an alcoholic to know it may not be serving you personally.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe

no offence taken by me and I do take your point

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