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Sad over historical deaths?

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Personyouneedisnannymcphee · 10/04/2023 18:35

Obviously death happens every day and there are many recent, very sad deaths. But some historical ones actually make me ache a little when I think about them I think due to the details and historical background of them more so than sometimes things I hear on the news. Some of these being:

-the Romanov children. Of course the Tsar was horrific but how they died thinking they were going to safety and then didn’t get killed by bullets as jewels in their clothes protected them so they were finished with bayonets.

-Anne Boylyn’s death because the details of her ladies not letting the men touch her afterwards for fears they’d violate her headless body.

AIBU for sometimes being incredibly sad over these people I never knew or do you have your own historical death that makes your stomach drop when you think of it?

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Askil · 28/04/2023 16:22

Lesina · 10/04/2023 21:40

Arthur Labinjo Hughes. The footage of that little boy crying that no one loved him will haunt me to the grave. Unutterable cruelty.

I'll never forget those words too. 'No one Loves me, No one will feed me'. It echoes in my head so often. Why should such a tiny child know so much rejection and pain?

Emotionalsupportviper · 28/04/2023 20:57

It was dreadful @Askil - we all wept in this house when that terrible piece of footage was shown. The despair in that poor baby's voice. I just wanted to put my arms around him and look after him - poor little boy.

ChopperC110P · 28/04/2023 21:13

The poor Syrian boy who drowned trying to get to Kos in 2015 and washed up on the beach in Bodrum still haunts me. His red t-shirt and blue shorts. His recent haircut and little black shoes. The way the police cradled him when they carried him away.

It’s been 8yrs since then and people are still drowning trying to cross these seas- the Mediterranean and the Channel- and all the politicians have done is make things worse. It seems the simplest thing in the world really, put the Navy out there and stop the drownings. Argue over what you want to do to help or not help people who just want a chance at a better life, just whatever you do stop letting all these innocents drown for nothing.

Emotionalsupportviper · 30/04/2023 17:06

Argue over what you want to do to help or not help people who just want a chance at a better life, just whatever you do stop letting all these innocents drown for nothing.

Totally agree @ChopperC110P . A few years ago I remember govt instruction telling the RNLI volunteers not to pick up people from the sea and bring them ashore, but to leave them (to drown).

The RNLI quite rightly and very bravely told the govt to stick it up their hole (may not have been those exact words Grin). How DARE policiticians try to make murderers of decent, courageous folk!

Bearfrills · 30/04/2023 17:45

Government could fix the crossings in a heartbeat by opening up safe routes such as allowing people to make their application for asylum from whichever country they're currently in - application approved and you'll be brought over. Instead you can only apply once already in the UK which is where the incentive to make the crossing comes from.

MavisMcMinty · 30/04/2023 19:42

Emotionalsupportviper · 20/04/2023 17:51

There is a novel based on the disaster "A Terrible Kindness". I had known of the disaster - I am of an age to remember the horror of it on the news - but the detail obviously escaped me. The book is very touching.

This is incredibly moving, too. For people not involved the awfulness of it shocks for a time, but then life intrudes, and it goes out of our minds; for those there it will never be finished with, I think.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-150d11df-c541-44a9-9332-560a19828c47

Thanks to your post, I bought A Terrible Kindness and have just wept my way through it, great recommendation, thank you!

Boogismyname · 08/05/2023 23:02

https://www.englishmonarchs.co.uk/hanover_29.html
Octavius and his little brother.
Hopefully their death wasn't horrific, but the void their presence felt by their parents and their little characters is very, very sad.
Read the website linked and see the painting of them and it is so sad!!!
Reminds me of my little brother at that age!
He was George the 3rd's son aka 'mad King George'.
It is said than in later life, after these children had died from their small pox illness, that their father was convinced that a pillow was a vision of Octavius.
It's unusual having a commentary of the parent's grief from that era.
Excrutiatingly sad.

Prince Octavius, son of King George III and Charlotte

Octavius was close to his nearest sister Sophia, who referred to Octavius her son, and went with her and their siblings

https://www.englishmonarchs.co.uk/hanover_29.html

Emotionalsupportviper · 09/05/2023 14:49

MavisMcMinty · 30/04/2023 19:42

Thanks to your post, I bought A Terrible Kindness and have just wept my way through it, great recommendation, thank you!

You're welcome - I'm glad you enjoyed it ("Enjoyed" doing heavy lifting here, I know.) It is a very moving book and really brings home the tragedy, and the effects it had on all of those involved, IMO.

Emotionalsupportviper · 09/05/2023 14:52

beguilingeyes · 30/04/2023 22:15

God Almighty!

That's terrible.

I recall that at one point the govt were telling the RNLI volunteers not to rescue people in this sort of situation, and the RNLI , to their eternal credit, told them to take a running jump, and that there was no way that they would let anyone drown if they could possibly prevent it.

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