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incognitoborito · 2023-04-09T14:25:10+00:00

I need some urgent advice on how I tackle this? My usually very sensible 15 year old DD was smoking weed last night. She had a friend over and they went to the shop for snacks. They came back and I could smell it in the hallway. The windows were open and I presumed it was my neighbour as he smokes it in the garden so thought nothing more of it. This morning when she was about to go out with said friend I could smell it on her. I questioned her and got the usual teenage excuses before she finally fessed up but tried to throw everyone else under the bus. Any advice? I really never thought I'd have issues like this with her!😣

MissMaple82 · 10/04/2023 12:34

GooseberryCinnamonYogurt · 09/04/2023 15:48

A phase she prob won't grow out of so nip this in the bud now!

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Incorrect. Most people grow out of the phase. It's a part of growing up

MissMaple82 · 10/04/2023 12:35

incognitoborito · 09/04/2023 21:59

I agree it's probably safer than alcohol. But not at this age. She has exams coming up, her brain is still developing etc. I really didn't expect this from her. She's usually so sensible. She's bookish, smart and a bit of a goody goody. I know peer pressure plays a big part but you just really never know do you. I'm so disappointed. It is very young. I think I first tried it when I was about 17. And it was nothing like today's strength.
I attempted to speak to her about it over dinner tonight. All I received was attitude and sass like I'm the one in the wrong. Give me strength.

More strength years ago!

monsteramunch · 10/04/2023 12:41

@BigDaddyFizzy

You think a teenager is more likely than not to get their weed from a sort of 'ethical' dealer with no problematic supply chain? Sorry but that's incredibly naive.

Most cannabis in the UK is now skunk. Good for you if yours wasn't / isn't but I'm not sure how long it's been since you were a smoker and perhaps you're unaware of how much the market has changed when it comes to strength. It's a different ball game now even compared to 10 years ago.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43196566

The research referred to showed that in 2016, 94% of police seizures were high-potency marijuana, compared to 85% in 2008 and 51% in 2005. The drug contains more of the psychoactive ingredient THC than some other types of cannabis, such as hash.

The researchers say their latest work, published in the journal Drug Testing and Analysis, is the first comprehensive survey of cannabis strength published in the UK for nearly a decade.
They analysed police seizures of cannabis from London, Kent, Derbyshire, Merseyside and Sussex in 2005, 2008 and again in 2016.

Skunk was the dominant street drug over this time period, while the availability of weaker cannabis resin went down - from 43% in 2005 and 14% in 2008, to 6% in 2016.

Onemyownhere · 10/04/2023 12:46

I was once that teenager who used to hide things from my adopted mum, she was more cross of me not telling the truth... Could you have this conversation with just you and ur daughter about this?

Onemyownhere · 10/04/2023 12:49

Sorry I know u already asked her, I jumped to early... I would just have another conversation about this and that way u can express your concerns and hopefully she can open up to you, it's hard because u don't have no control of what she is doing when she is out with her mates

monsteramunch · 10/04/2023 12:51

@MissMaple82

More strength years ago!

I'm not sure why you think that's the case? Research shows it isn't. Pasting below what I just shared with another poster.

Strength wise, it's a different ball game now even compared to 10 years ago.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43196566

The research referred to showed that in 2016, 94% of police seizures were high-potency marijuana, compared to 85% in 2008 and 51% in 2005. The drug contains more of the psychoactive ingredient THC than some other types of cannabis, such as hash.

The researchers say their latest work, published in the journal Drug Testing and Analysis, is the first comprehensive survey of cannabis strength published in the UK for nearly a decade.
They analysed police seizures of cannabis from London, Kent, Derbyshire, Merseyside and Sussex in 2005, 2008 and again in 2016.

Skunk was the dominant street drug over this time period, while the availability of weaker cannabis resin went down - from 43% in 2005 and 14% in 2008, to 6% in 2016.

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For additional context, in the 70s the maximum THC levels available were still under 5%. In the last couple of years the average level in resin has been 4-6% and the average in sinsinella (which forms more than 90% of the market) has been 14%.

www.kcl.ac.uk/archive/news/ioppn/records/2018/february/uk-cannabis-market-dominated-by-high-potency-%27skunk%27

BigDaddyFizzy · 10/04/2023 12:55

monsteramunch · 10/04/2023 12:41

@BigDaddyFizzy

You think a teenager is more likely than not to get their weed from a sort of 'ethical' dealer with no problematic supply chain? Sorry but that's incredibly naive.

Most cannabis in the UK is now skunk. Good for you if yours wasn't / isn't but I'm not sure how long it's been since you were a smoker and perhaps you're unaware of how much the market has changed when it comes to strength. It's a different ball game now even compared to 10 years ago.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43196566

The research referred to showed that in 2016, 94% of police seizures were high-potency marijuana, compared to 85% in 2008 and 51% in 2005. The drug contains more of the psychoactive ingredient THC than some other types of cannabis, such as hash.

The researchers say their latest work, published in the journal Drug Testing and Analysis, is the first comprehensive survey of cannabis strength published in the UK for nearly a decade.
They analysed police seizures of cannabis from London, Kent, Derbyshire, Merseyside and Sussex in 2005, 2008 and again in 2016.

Skunk was the dominant street drug over this time period, while the availability of weaker cannabis resin went down - from 43% in 2005 and 14% in 2008, to 6% in 2016.

Just in my personal experience this has been the case. I smoked for YEARS so did lots of my friends I know probs over 100 people who have smoked and not one of them had ever bought from a random person. They were always known in some sort of fashion although I know this is not likely to be the same for everyone. Although I do feel many people compare buying weed to buying cocaine and that is two totally different levels of danger. Any regarding the strength I didn't mention anything about strength? But since it's been brought up. in my experience I found that when I started to when I stopped (12 months ago) the weed is no way near as strong these days but that can be for many different reasons.

pilates · 10/04/2023 12:59

I think you were right to come down hard on her. A friend of my DD started with this and it led to harder drugs. He has mental health issues and suicidal thoughts. I am not saying this will happen to your DD but it was sad to watch the slippery slope he is now on. Just keep lines of communication open and having frank conversations.

monsteramunch · 10/04/2023 13:00

@BigDaddyFizzy

Any regarding the strength I didn't mention anything about strength? But since it's been brought up. in my experience I found that when I started to when I stopped (12 months ago) the weed is no way near as strong these days but that can be for many different reasons.

I appreciate that may have been the case for you but the statistics show that your experience is an anomaly, perhaps due to the fact you were buying from small, independent dealers.

The fact is, 94% of cannabis in the UK is now sinsinella and the average THC level is around 14%. That's stronger than ever.

You may have been buying form the 6% that is not skunk and is milder, but statistically it's far, far more likely that a teen is buying from the other 94% of the market.

The 'it's not as strong as it used to be' line people use is dangerous as well as being factually incorrect so I feel it's important to share the data that shows it's overwhelmingly not the case generally, even if it's true for an individual.

BigDaddyFizzy · 10/04/2023 13:11

monsteramunch · 10/04/2023 13:00

@BigDaddyFizzy

Any regarding the strength I didn't mention anything about strength? But since it's been brought up. in my experience I found that when I started to when I stopped (12 months ago) the weed is no way near as strong these days but that can be for many different reasons.

I appreciate that may have been the case for you but the statistics show that your experience is an anomaly, perhaps due to the fact you were buying from small, independent dealers.

The fact is, 94% of cannabis in the UK is now sinsinella and the average THC level is around 14%. That's stronger than ever.

You may have been buying form the 6% that is not skunk and is milder, but statistically it's far, far more likely that a teen is buying from the other 94% of the market.

The 'it's not as strong as it used to be' line people use is dangerous as well as being factually incorrect so I feel it's important to share the data that shows it's overwhelmingly not the case generally, even if it's true for an individual.

Yeah I get you, the only thing with statistical data is that it's only takes into account what is seized. And lets be honest, police are going to seizing the big stuff. Not the most common weed that the average dealer with a small amount of plants sells. I suppose it's like anything really everyone has a different experience regardless of what the stats say. I found weed to be quite calming and never effected me in a negative way whatsoever. It was expensive though!!

monsteramunch · 10/04/2023 13:21

Yeah I get you, the only thing with statistical data is that it's only takes into account what is seized. And lets be honest, police are going to seizing the big stuff.Not the most common weed that the average dealer with a small amount of plants sells.

I agree, but it's very unlikely a teenager is going to be buying from a home seller rather than a 'proper' dealer.

I just think the blanket 'not as strong as it used to be' is dangerous when teens are much, much more likely to buy from the 94% of the market selling high strength than the ethical self growing sellers who are going to fall into the other 6%. Especially as the price is much cheaper in that 94%.

MavisMcMinty · 10/04/2023 13:36

BigDaddyFizzy · 10/04/2023 12:20

There's a lot of people who don't really understand or have any experience with weed replying in this thread. I smoked for around 15 years (not any more) and have always had a good job etc. but saying things like you don't know what weed is mixed together or cut with imo doesn't make sense as it grows as a plant and buds are cut off and bagged it's not cut with anything at all as that's quite impossible? One thing is it could be sprayed with chemicals to help it grow but you can smell that but if you have a trusted dealer you know that isn't the case, most people who sell weed are different to people who sell cocaine for example as the money isn't really in it with weed. Everyone I used to get it from were all friends who worked and had stable jobs and normal families. So the criminal enterprise part is a bit far fetched too imo never really heard of any violence or anything other that friendliness from weed dealers to be honest. What I would say if that the harsher you are on her the more sneaky she may become and you may push her more towards smoking it. Alcohol is way way worse but most parents let their children have a cheeky drink before they are of age. I just think weed gets way more of a bad reputation when people don't really understand it.

Good points. Weed is rife here in Devon and it’s all home-grown in cupboards, friends selling small amounts to each other, all working in steady jobs. Weed smokers don’t tend to drink alcohol either, as the two don’t mix well (as watching a group of Brits in Amsterdam will prove).

LBFseBrom · 10/04/2023 15:27

I agree with Mavis and Bigdaddy.

Onemyownhere · 10/04/2023 16:03

Most cannabis is Skunk which is also laced with cocaine, there is also hash which is laced with a lot of chemicals that link to psychosis behaviour

MavisMcMinty · 10/04/2023 16:34

Please explain how “they lace skunk with cocaine”, and more importantly why?

MavisMcMinty · 10/04/2023 16:35

Skunk is the very opposite of cocaine regarding its effects!

Londongal123 · 10/04/2023 17:17

I think if more parents educated themselves on drugs and harm reduction we'd all be better off. LOL at weed being laced with cocaine.

MavisMcMinty · 10/04/2023 17:24

A few decades ago I was a nurse working in HIV prevention/reduction, and it was impressed upon me that it’s counterproductive overstating the bad/dangerous effects of drugs, because people know the facts and are less inclined to listen to you on anything else.

PollyPut · 10/04/2023 17:27

@incognitoborito stick to your approach - your job is to parent your child.

It's worth looking up her school policy for possessing it at school (presumably expulsion) and then making sure she is aware how serious it is. It's serious for a reason.

It's surprising how many children don't know they could get expelled - and then how hard it is to get into another school (or perhaps certain jobs) with this on their record

GerronBuzanDoThaWomwok · 10/04/2023 17:35

Police.
No discussion or forewarning.
Zero Tolerance.

BigDaddyFizzy · 10/04/2023 18:33

Onemyownhere · 10/04/2023 16:03

Most cannabis is Skunk which is also laced with cocaine, there is also hash which is laced with a lot of chemicals that link to psychosis behaviour

Who made that up? 😂

Onemyownhere · 10/04/2023 18:58

BigDaddyFizzy · 10/04/2023 18:33

Who made that up? 😂

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Not debating about it, I don't need to explain my reasons as it's someone else's personal business that would be shared in the process

Onemyownhere · 10/04/2023 19:00

Londongal123 · 10/04/2023 17:17

I think if more parents educated themselves on drugs and harm reduction we'd all be better off. LOL at weed being laced with cocaine.

LOL at being niave not all the time sorry but some drug dealers lace Skunk with cocaine

BigDaddyFizzy · 10/04/2023 19:20

@Onemyownhere I have literally never ever heard of this and I cant even see why anyone would do that. It doesn't make sense financially for a dealer but There is some wrong un's about though to be fair!

TheUser420 · 10/04/2023 19:32

The fact is, 94% of cannabis in the UK is now sinsinella

I would hope it all was ! I suggest people educate themselves before trying to educate others. (start with finding out what sinsemilla means).

I've grown thousands of cannabis plants over time. While I am still learning, it isn't from here.