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To think that all children should be heard reading individually at school everyday

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Reallytired · 14/02/2008 12:59

My son's infant school no longer listens to individual readers. The arguement is that its very time consuming and it does not require a skilled person to listen to a child practice reading. Instead the children do group reading once a week with the teacher.

My objection is that my son's best friend's mother cannot read. She can't read because English is her fourth language. She is attending a remedial literacy course, but her six year old son can read better than his mother.

I think its disgusting that nothing is being done to give the little boy the individual practice he needs. I think that more LSAs should be employed to listen to children read. I agree it does not require a teaching qualification to hear reading, but it does require the ablity to read yourself.

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cornsilk · 16/02/2008 21:56

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drinkmoretea · 16/02/2008 22:04

I am really surprised to these posts, we must be extremly lucky at our school. my children read every day individually and also have 'guided' reading once a week.
We are an average size school, with a teacher and an assistant in each class, they do not miss out on any other subject....

3andnomore · 16/02/2008 22:16

in our school it's mums etc...volunteering their time to do the daily or at least every other day individual reading with teh children...seems to work well...

3andnomore · 16/02/2008 22:17

oh but to add on...all parents are encouraged to listen to their children read on a daily basis....

ratbunny · 16/02/2008 22:26

when i was a full time teacher, I heard each child once per week (as part of a group) and enrolled the help of several parents to hear readers in the mornings. We only had 3 volunteers and with the hours they could make it, it meant that all children were heard read 1 - 2 times a week extra. Those with poorer reading skills were heard 3 times a week. It really boosted their reading.

Ultimately, we need smaller class sizes. 30 children is just too many, and some of our classes have more than that.

But to answer the op, yes that is unreasonable.

And cory - a lot of ICT in schools is bought by tesco vouchers - we had thousands of pounds worth to spend on ICT, not for staffing.

3andnomore · 16/02/2008 22:35

ratbunny, yes classes are far to big...but, imo, the whole reading expectation at such young age is sort of unreasonable in itself...
but then, in germany we don't start school as early as over here...but as far as I know reading and writingwise german Kids are doing well.
Watched a clip, posted on here the other day, how the swedish system works, and I think it's a pretty perfect model!

ratbunny · 16/02/2008 22:41

3andnomore - totally agree.
It seems we are always trying to push them harder and harder. Will be soon be expecting them to take GCSE's instead of KS2 SATS?

reading is very important, but imo not to the detriment of the arts, humanities etc To use a professionals time just for reading to the exclusion of everything else would be such a wasted resource.

Clary · 17/02/2008 00:09

Oh what MB said as usual

MeMySonAndI · 17/02/2008 00:57

Erm... my son is heard reading every day, given a new book every day and a high frequency word list weekly. We, as parents, are asked to comment (daily) on the reading at home in a special notebook that comes home with the notes of the teacher. Most children at school start reading at 3, and we have been told that their 7 year old read to the level of a 12 year old.

I'm not surprised, but I know this is only possible because this is a school with a maximum of 15 children per class, which insists in having a teacher and a full time TA plus a teacher on training at all times, therefore having a strict ratio of 5 children per teacher. Not surprisingly... it cost us a fortune.

Although I believe that is not unreasonable for a child to be heard reading once a day, I'm afraid that expecting the teacher of a large groupto do it all is quite unreasonable. That's what parents are for.

I confess I tend to have some problems teaching my son as English is not my first language, but I wouldn't expect the school to sort the problem for me... I have explained to DS that some phonems I just can't pronounce (apart of being my second lenguage I have a hearing loss), he has taken to correct me with the pronounciation... a lost battle but one that I'm happy to let DS fight

McDreamylove · 17/02/2008 07:09

I think DD gets listened to every other day from the information I can glean from her.

She is in a class of 33 with a teacher and 3 qualified LSA's. I know they do group phonics daily but I am pretty sure they don't get listened to daily. I am going to volunteer as a parent helper after half term to see what does go on!!

As I can listen to DD read every day myself I think I would rather she was listened to every other day and did the things that I can't provide daily, IYSWIM.

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