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England is so expensive.

189 replies

Mooshamoo · 06/04/2023 20:47

I just flew over from Ireland to England for a couple of days.

Jesus everything is so expensive in England! I felt like I burned through money.

I thought Ireland was pricy enough, but England is way more expensive.

I've come home, looked at my bank account and cried a little haha.

For example I got a train in Ireland before I left. It was 14 euro.

I got a train for the same distance in England. It was 40 pounds. It didn't even travel that far. And the guy in the train station told me that this was the best deal ticket "it was off peak"

Everything in the UK supermarket was so pricy.

I was just a little shocked. How are you all coping with it

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IDontWantToBeAPie · 07/04/2023 08:36

custardlover · 06/04/2023 21:21

I bought two drinks in a big-standard boozer in central London the other day. Not a touristy one, not a fancy bar but an old-school pub in the legal district, full of solicitors and barristers but not eg bankers. I got a small glass of wine and a single gin and tonic and it was TWENTY FIVE ENGLISH POUNDS. Thirteen for the G&T and twelve for the wine. I almost fell down dead. England is super super expensive right now.

Tbf that's not normal. I live in C London and my local it's £7 for a wine and £6-8 for a pint. Cheaper one down the road is about £5.99 for either.

custardlover · 07/04/2023 09:22

@IDontWantToBeAPie it was the Fullers pub on High Holborn, near Chancery Lane tube. I assumed I was just out of touch as I haven't been to a pub in ages (usually restaurants).

I went to my local pub for Sunday lunch recently though (after the drink incident and in zone 3) and the roast was £26 so it all chimed with pubs being bloody expensive now!

magicthree · 07/04/2023 09:30

Fudgewomble · 07/04/2023 07:16

The UK has incredibly cheap food compared to New Zealand and, to a lesser extent, Australia. Yes prices in supermarkets have gone up, I can see that, but for my part I am grateful at how much cheaper the food is here than my home country.

I live in NZ, and I'm aghast at what some of you pay for energy over there.

verdantverdure · 07/04/2023 10:35

This isn't a comparison with other countries, but you can see how UK food prices have gone up dramatically over the last couple of years.

England is so expensive.
verdantverdure · 07/04/2023 10:47

My husband travels in Europe a lot for work and he says pretty much only Norway is more expensive for eating out than London or the Home Counties in the U.K., but all European countries have better quality and more plentiful fruit and veg than the U.K. does these days.

They're not looking at sad unripe green satsumas, tomato shortages, or apples the packaging says to keep in the fridge.

verdantverdure · 07/04/2023 10:55

Cat food is one of my price indicators. Our cats dry food used to be £14 for 4kg about three years ago. Now it's £36 for 4kg, and the 1.5kg is £16.

It's made in the U.K. so our highest electricity prices ij the work probably contribute.

lljkk · 07/04/2023 11:00

PriamFarrl · 06/04/2023 21:34

Here you go. This is an independent near me. Nice, but not super fancy. Let your mind boggle away.

Yeah but come on, that looks well poncey place, vegan, "Vaquero", etc. This is menu now from localish indie tourist pub in prime location. Burger + chips + coleslaw for £10-£13. Agree with PP who commented about expensive food in USA, too.

England is so expensive.
phoenixrosehere · 07/04/2023 11:09

somewhereovertherain · 07/04/2023 08:27

Food cheap in America? Found it to be one of the most expensive places we’ve visited.

Surely that depends on what cities and regions you visited in the States.

gogohmm · 07/04/2023 11:21

@Mooshamoo

But it depends on where you eat! In my town you can spend from £5.89 - £19.99 on burger and chips, the cheapest being McDonald's, we then have Wetherspoons at £8, an independent pub at £10 (includes a beer or glass of wine) and other independent at £12 including a drink, the chain wine bar at £11 but no drink, right up to the two gastro pubs at £15.99 and £19.99.

Trains however I agree, stupid prices, I either drive, take the motorbike or the coach

gogohmm · 07/04/2023 11:28

@fyn

Food is not cheaper in the USA, supermarkets are around 1/3-1/2 more than the U.K. (varies quite a bit by location) eating out is quite expensive because you need to add tax and tip to the menu prices. Buying a beer is very expensive, over $10 once tax and tip is added, for comparison I paid £4.10 yesterday night, sw. We burned through money like anything last year.

gogohmm · 07/04/2023 11:30

@custardlover

My local pub charges £12 for a roast and £4.10 a pint. Its even in a touristy area, high average incomes, lots of second homes. £26 isn't normal for a pub

Ginmonkeyagain · 07/04/2023 11:47

@Xenia energy bills are a function of unit price and amount of units used. Even at current prices £1.1k a month for domestic energy going some. Are you heating a swimming pool?

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PriamFarrl · 07/04/2023 13:05

lljkk · 07/04/2023 11:00

Yeah but come on, that looks well poncey place, vegan, "Vaquero", etc. This is menu now from localish indie tourist pub in prime location. Burger + chips + coleslaw for £10-£13. Agree with PP who commented about expensive food in USA, too.

Wow. Somewhere having something vegan on their menu is considered ‘poncey’?

lljkk · 07/04/2023 13:46

For those of us living in high ITV viewing, UKIP supporting areas... yeah. Poncey. Y'all recall Caleb on Clarkson's Farm declaring that Oscar was foreign coz O. was born in Oxford? Some places in England are like that.

Mywardrobesareoak · 07/04/2023 14:38

Ginmonkeyagain · 07/04/2023 11:47

@Xenia energy bills are a function of unit price and amount of units used. Even at current prices £1.1k a month for domestic energy going some. Are you heating a swimming pool?

She probably is tbf, this is Xenia were talking about!

Commonsensitivity · 07/04/2023 14:40

I actually wonder why we in the UK are putting up with it? We should start to protest. We are too passive. I'm in France on holiday and just paid around £45 for a 2 course meal for three including wine and soft drinks. Excellent quality and volume too.

AskMeMore · 07/04/2023 15:45

gogohmm · 07/04/2023 11:30

@custardlover

My local pub charges £12 for a roast and £4.10 a pint. Its even in a touristy area, high average incomes, lots of second homes. £26 isn't normal for a pub

That is cheap. Is it a weatherspoons?

maddy68 · 07/04/2023 15:49

I agree I live in an expensive part of Spain but I shudder every town I visit the uk. Everything is so expensive. Shockingly so

Xenia · 07/04/2023 15:51

VAT in Nigeria is 7.5%. When VAT came out in the UK it was 10% when the UK joined the then EEC. Tax just gets higher and higher.

PriamFarrl · 07/04/2023 16:49

lljkk · 07/04/2023 13:46

For those of us living in high ITV viewing, UKIP supporting areas... yeah. Poncey. Y'all recall Caleb on Clarkson's Farm declaring that Oscar was foreign coz O. was born in Oxford? Some places in England are like that.

I’ve not seen Clarkson’s farm.

Where I am is hardly metropolitan but we can cope with there being vegan food on the menu.

Here is another pub nearby where you can watch the football while you eat. Very much not ‘poncey’ even though they do have a vegan burger on the menu.

England is so expensive.
Emigratingimmigrant · 07/04/2023 16:51

Xenia · 07/04/2023 15:51

VAT in Nigeria is 7.5%. When VAT came out in the UK it was 10% when the UK joined the then EEC. Tax just gets higher and higher.

Well if we are comparing with Nigeria. Ok.

Whammyyammy · 07/04/2023 17:13

You're not wrong, certainly with train tickets. I regularly travel to Heathrow for flights. A return train ticket including Heathrow express usually costs me circa, £205.
Due to the train service being unreliable and piss poor due to constant strikes I've swapped over to hire cars.
One way hire costs me about £70 each way, plus about £15 ew fuel, therefore £35 cheaper than trains. Plus I don't have to deal with people, run for a seat etc.

custardlover · 07/04/2023 17:26

Well I can't find the Sunday roast menu online but I found the standard one - not much for £12 here and the steak and chips is £29.50 😫 (nice non-chain neighbourhood pub, west london, zone 3).

I definitely think it's pricy but I think everywhere has gone up a lot recently (I travel a lot for work).

Burger is £16.50.

England is so expensive.
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