It wasn’t funded! (DfE liars!)

[MrsMurphyIWish]

Am so sick of reading this: A Department for Education spokesperson said: "The offer was funded, including major new investment of over half a billion pounds, and helps tackle issues teachers are facing like workload."

0.5% was to be funded only, rest would be out of current budgets which my school is already running at a deficit. We currently are using portaloos as our toilet system doesn’t work! Our head couldn’t possibly afford to pay staff and fix our building.

A “task force” would help with work load. We don’t need another (over paid) committee to tell us what we already know - we already have so many rehashed strategies about “working smarter, not harder” under corporate speak titles. Not one strategy can put right Ofsted toxicity, dealing with suicidal pupils, dealing with starving pupils - this is what affects teacher mental health. We take the burden of other’s mental health.

Anyway, AIBU to wish the media would actually write the truth and challenge the government on their double speak?

yep, they’re lying fuckers

They really don't get it unfortunately.

I think all MPs should spend 1 year working as either a teacher or in a front line NHS role before being able to work in politics.

There is no way my school can fund the pay rises. They struggle as it is as having experienced teachers is a financial nightmare.

It's like the government telling us to be frugal with energy or food - eventually, there's a point where you can't be frugal anymore. Similarly, schools can't just rely on current budgets and half-hearted solutions. We need real investment and solutions to the issues teachers are facing.

Like you said, the media should hold the government accountable and challenge their double-speak but I dont think they will.

YANBU this government are taking the people of this country for fools.

But there will be a considerable number of people who believe them, and that is why they do this.

I think people believe that the funding for wages comes directly from the government and not from a finite budget that each school is given.

Oh yes, “my taxes okay your wages!”

*pay

School budget question as a none teacher. How does the school budget get allocated? Do you get a certain amount per head for every child attending. Or is it also based on area?

I know staff wages and all bills come from the budget. Anything else that I wouldn’t consider?

I know a lot of schools are at breaking point or past that point with budgets.

Each year if you have certain teachers moving up the pay scale, you don’t get more budget, is that why sometimes NQT are favoured not from a teaching of education POV but a budget?

We also have to pay for things like ed psych hours so if we have lots of children who need to be seen we have to prioritise as we can't afford for them all to be seen within the same year as we don't have the budget for it.

Schools are charged as businesses for energy bills and things like waste disposal which you may not have thought about as well?

@Spyrothedragon23 yes so much per child but that varies in different authorities due to an old formula. Plus there's money for pupil premium children and also an SEN budget with 6k x however many children ticked certain boxes in the previous year. Plus funding for any child with an EHCP.

No extra funding for teachers higher up the scale so some schools do prefer ECTs (Early Career Teachers - used instead of NQT now for teachers in first two years of career).

Any EHCP is supposed to be topped up by one of the lots of 6k from the send budget.

@Spyrothedragon23 taken from the gov website:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1063628/Condition_funding_methodology_2022_to_2023.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjkj4z7kpL-AhUSEcAKHWNFA0gQFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2fBJWvq28d304ecHsjGseE

"Local authorities receive a single formulaic allocation to invest in their maintained
non-VA schools according to their own assessments of condition need.
Multi-academy trusts2 and VA bodies with 5 or more schools and at least 3,000
pupils receive a single formulaic allocation to invest in their schools according to their
own assessments of condition need. Details of how pupils are counted for eligibility
purposes are provided on page 8.
The Department for Education administers funding for single academy trusts, small
multi-academy trusts, small VA bodies, and sixth form colleges through the
Condition Improvement Fund. We treat the Condition Improvement Fund as a single
responsible body and calculate an allocation for the Fund accordingly.
Non-maintained special schools and special post-16 institutions
receive a direct allocation in respect of their state-funded pupils."

Yes it's mainly based on pupil numbers. Schools must use this money for everything. Most Local Authorities have what they call 'Traded Services'. These are mostly services that used to be provided to schools for free but you now have to pay for. Here's an example of one:

https://tradedservices.novusapps.co.uk/

Gives you an idea of prices.

At least the tories know what a woman is, that's the main thing.

@Spyrothedragon23 That first link is broken. Sorry. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk › ...
PDF
Condition funding: methodology for the financial year 2022–2023

Is it really though?

It makes me so angry. There really should be some accountability for lying.

It’s terrible! My brother is a head teacher and he’s thinking of leaving the profession as the last term was so stressful because there just isn’t enough budget to do what is needed. When teachers hand in their notice they are almost relieved because it means they can not replace them and it releases some of the budget back but this is obviously at the detriment of the children’s education as it means more kids are crammed into classes together. It’s absolutely horrific and this latest payrise announcement has been a massive turning point for my brother as they just can’t afford to fund it. What the government is doing is so so so so wrong.

I know of a few schools that have become charities. I'm guessing this is to try and nd save money somewhere.

My own children's school allows you to donate through Amazon Smile.

It makes me so angry. I"ve watched an amazing school have to reduce what it offers the children year on year and then last year do a massive reduction. I wish the children starting this September could have experienced what the children got 10 years ago.

Of course.

We even have posters on here who perpetuate this lie.

@ilovesooty I was arguing with a poster just yesterday because she doesn't understand the anger regarding SEN provision. She lives in one of the wealthiest and least populated London boroughs and has been told it'll only be 1 year until her son's Dyspraxia assessment is done. She reckons because of this we should all be more grateful. I wonder how shocked she'll be when her son doesn't get any OT.

I think that poster was being sarcastic. It's quite apparent that there are single issue posters perfectly prepared to enable a continuing Tory government.

I wish we could plaster THE OFFER WASN’T FUNDED all over the mainstream media.

Absolutely agree with PP who suggested all politicians should have to spend one year as either frontline NHS or a teacher in a deprived area before they can make any policy decisions.

Gavin Williamson’s wife is a teacher and Gillian Keegan apparently has family members who are teachers too so surely they must have some insight?