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Still fuming

109 replies

GayforMoleman · 04/04/2023 01:55

Took 11 year old DD to a local park today with DSis and DN (3). Drunk teenagers everywhere. Literally about 30-40 of them. Because they were gathering in a certain area, poor DN couldn't get near it or understand why. One, about 14, with her bum literally hanging out of her shorts decided to stop by me and DD and shout "SUCK MY DICK EMO!" at us. DD visibly shocked and I couldn’t say a fucking word for fear of us both being jumped by the rest of them. It actually sickens me that kids around here (nearby Liverpool) get away with murder. Sometimes actual attempted, they wont blink before they'll go for a grown man with a knife. You cant say a thing because they're all Billy big bollocks in gangs, the lads wearing balaclavas. Police wont do a thing.
AIBU in thinking this is no way to live?!

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Sisisimone · 05/04/2023 10:50

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 10:25

But is what you’ve described the same as what the Op has described? No

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Well yes it is the same. Teenagers hanging round in big groups getting pissed. If youre doing it in a field your less likely to annoy people or get in the way of parents wanting to take their kids on the swings. I imagine there are no fields in whatever town the OP lives so the open space they choose to hang in is the local park. Same behaviour but more of a problem to others who want to be in the same park and not put up with drunken teenagers

IWineAndDontDine · 05/04/2023 10:51

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 10:49

Goodness there’s sensitive and then there’s thin skinned

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Not thin skinned. Just stop being an arsehole. There's just absolutely no need.

It's not "teens drinking on the beach". It was the same as what OP described. Believe me or don't. Fucking hell

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 11:07

but in your post you didn’t describe it as such

and you sort of just proved my “thin skin” comment 🤷‍♀️

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 11:09

Beach is different to playground. Latter is specifically for children.

and no where did you say that in your beach parties you or party goers would drunkenly go up to a child building a sandcastle and confront them as in the Op

teens drinking on a beach… nothing wrong with that Pe se

Teens drinking in a designated area specifically for young children and then confronting them in a very rude fashion… yep something wrong with that per se

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 11:10

Added to which beaches are VAST

easy to move elsewhere and still enjoy the beach

not so in the Op and a playgrounds case

EarthlyNightshade · 05/04/2023 11:13

palelavender · 05/04/2023 08:34

Even people who could rend those teenagers from limb to limb (yes, an exciting thought) advise their students to avoid trouble. The first rule is not to put yourself in that situation and the second is to get our of that situation as fast as you can which may include sprinting to safety and trying to do that while carrying small stupid children. Small stupid children should never be allowed to put you in danger to indulge their whims.

What makes you think the small child was stupid?

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 11:14

@palelavender you have referred to a 3 year old as “stupid” twice

i will take a punt that you don’t have children and you’re not a fan of young children

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/04/2023 11:25

@Ursualesther

Op said near Liverpool not IN Liverpool - could be Ormskirk, Widnes, St Helens, Skem, the Wirral, Southport

Etc etc. People from these towns often say near Liverpool

Sorry can't unbold text this site drives me mad sometimes

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 11:27

Apologies

I read Living in a cesspool.

and presumed she was referring to Liverpool

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/04/2023 11:31

I could be totally totally wrong but I don't think she has an L postcode op can you please confirm don't worry were not asking for actual location- could you just clarify you mean a town near Liverpool or actually within Liverpool.

I've never heard anyone from Liverpool refer to it as a cesspool, that's a word that can be applied to any grim area.

Greenshake · 05/04/2023 11:58

@GoodChat I don’t believe the 999 criteria was met in this case.

Still fuming
SerendipityJane · 05/04/2023 12:02

carriedout · 04/04/2023 05:44

Because after 13 years of funding cuts from the Tories, they have too few people to deal with too many issues.

The teenagers were behaving badly, anti-socially but no one was actually being hurt, so it would not be top response.

I still find it astounding the Tories defunded the police so comprehensively! But here we are.

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If your lifestyle relied on breaking various laws, and you had the power to neuter the organisations that enforce the law, then you would defund them too. This is merely good business sense from the Tories. Stop funding the police and courts, and then you're pretty safe from investigation and prosecution.

Sisisimone · 05/04/2023 12:02

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 11:27

Apologies

I read Living in a cesspool.

and presumed she was referring to Liverpool

What? 🙄

Sisisimone · 05/04/2023 12:04

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 11:27

Apologies

I read Living in a cesspool.

and presumed she was referring to Liverpool

What do you mean by this @Ursualesther ?

greenlabeljar · 05/04/2023 12:13

I was in a leisure centre yesterday and a load of boys on scooters came scooting about and started shouting it's f'ing f&@@@cked fam stop it FAM....
wtf does 'fam' even mean.

People were literally grabbing their baby's in the middle of eating their lunch and getting out because they were so intimidated. Looked like a bunch of boys trying to fight each other with lovely F words thrown about in the middle.

Really pathetic that there's no order in this country. This is in a naice part of the country as well.

xxxxX10 · 05/04/2023 12:25

Can everyone just read the original post please. The OP does NOT live IN Liverpool. A lot of people who live in towns in the rest of the county like to claim they are from Liverpool, but they are NOT.
I have lived in Liverpool all my life, I have 3 children and 7 grandchildren. We have many lovely parks in Liverpool, which we visit regularly, and I have NEVER, ever come across gangs of teenagers like this, or any sort of unruly or threatening behaviour from ANYONE.
Yes there are parts of the city that are no-go areas, as in any large city, but Liverpool is a lovely place to live in and to visit. Full of culture, friendly people, lots of diversity and very welcoming.
The OP was describing an awful incident that happened in a park in her hometown. This had nothing to do with Liverpool.

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 12:26

This had nothing to do with Liverpool.

only insofar as the OP mentioned it being “nearby Liverpool”

xxxxX10 · 05/04/2023 12:33

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 12:26

This had nothing to do with Liverpool.

only insofar as the OP mentioned it being “nearby Liverpool”

Do Londoners accept people from say Reading, calling themselves Londoners? Would an incident in that town be accepted as being about London?

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 12:36

Very daft for an op to live in Reading and refer to the playground as “nearby London” 😂

SerendipityJane · 05/04/2023 12:40

Many years ago, I visited Liverpool with a friend who lived there as a child. We were driving around looking for a certain road (pre sat nav days) and stopped and asked a passing man. Without hesitation he said "Hang on, I've an A-Z at home" and he walked back about 50 yards and went and got it and helped us find the road.

Funny how singular incidents make life long impressions, but I have always felt warmly about scousers ever since. I just can't spend too long there as the accent is too catching ....

xxxxX10 · 05/04/2023 12:43

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 12:36

Very daft for an op to live in Reading and refer to the playground as “nearby London” 😂

My point exactly! And yet I had that response from a new colleague who said she was from London when in actual fact she meant Reading, presumably to pinpoint whereabouts Reading is to someone not from the south east. The OP appears to have done the same thing.

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 12:45

xxxxX10 · 05/04/2023 12:43

My point exactly! And yet I had that response from a new colleague who said she was from London when in actual fact she meant Reading, presumably to pinpoint whereabouts Reading is to someone not from the south east. The OP appears to have done the same thing.

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What would lead to conclusion that op seems to have done this?

SerendipityJane · 05/04/2023 12:49

It's hard to understand why "London" can't be considered the area bounded by the M25.

Unless you live under the bridges (and I admit some MNetters seem to) the question of "in" and "out" becomes simple.

I wonder if in 500 years this will be the case ?

Anyway, as you were.

xxxxX10 · 05/04/2023 12:52

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 12:45

What would lead to conclusion that op seems to have done this?

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Because she said "kids round here (nearby Liverpool)" not mentioning her actual hometown, which being small would probably not be recognised by people outside the region.
She has used Liverpool as a reference point as most people have heard of Liverpool. The actual incident did not happen IN Liverpool.

Ursualesther · 05/04/2023 12:53

Indeed the incident did not happen *in liverpool

nearby