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AIBU?

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People with doctorates who don't work in academia

123 replies

DoctorDee · 03/04/2023 15:42

Do you use your title? I finished my PhD last year but so far haven't called myself Dr at all- obviously I wouldn't use it in conversation but even where there's a drop down menu I tend to pick Ms out of habit rather than Dr.

Just wondered what other people did? I'd like to use it a bit more. Not sure whether to put it in my work email signature- it is related to my work but I don't need a doctorate to do my job, iyswim.

I suppose my AIBU is AIBU to use my academic title when I don't work in an academic role?

OP posts:
purplepandas · 03/04/2023 16:33

I work in academia and only use it for work, not with the bank etc.

Senorfrijoles · 03/04/2023 16:37

purplepandas · 03/04/2023 16:33

I work in academia and only use it for work, not with the bank etc.

Same. When I get post addressed to Dr. I know it's either from the union or my mother 😃

MysteryBelle · 03/04/2023 16:44

You worked hard for that, yes you should use it.

GasPanic · 03/04/2023 16:50

It can look a bit pretentious in certain settings, but more often than not using it will have positive/neutral effects on how people/organisations treat you rather than negative ones.

It's your title that you are entitled to use, use it as you see fit.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/04/2023 16:54

DH and I are both scientists, we use ours professionally. Well, used - he's retired now and my lot hardly ever use titles and my team nearly all have doctorates anyway.
I use mine occasionally outside of work - I've found encounters with the likes of doctors, lawyers and banks go a bit better when I do.

DelurkingAJ · 03/04/2023 16:59

For official purposes. Not for work (although it has been used when useful by those who employ me…usually when they want a shorthand for ‘she’s clever and hardworking’). Also used when people patronise me…the car saleswomen who couldn’t believe I was buying myself a car (rather than DH paying for it comes to mind). And when I’m at DH’s school as I’m damned if we’re going to be ‘Dr & Mrs’ rather than ‘Dr & Dr’!

BlueHeelers · 03/04/2023 17:01

You’ve earned the degree of PhD and the title Doctor. It’s applicable whatever you do.

I’m a Professor. I tend only to use that as a title in specific academic situations (generally when I know I’ll be the only woman there!). At other times, and on things like my credit card etc, I use my title Dr.

For me, that’s the title I’ve earned. So that’s the one I use.

The title of “Professor “ is one conferred on me by my specific job and I’d be unlikely to use it outside of my work.

Lyricallie · 03/04/2023 17:03

In my industry (energy) people do use it in their email signature etc. the same way if they were a chartered engineer for example. I think this is because we have many specialists in their fields working here.

BlueHeelers · 03/04/2023 17:04

BTW it’s not pretentious to use the title!

No one bats an eyelid when medical doctors use the title “Dr” even though for most medicos, it’s only a courtesy title.

It’s far more pretentious for a medico to use the title Dr (unless they have a PhD) than for someone who’s actually earned the PhD degree.

AncientBallerina · 03/04/2023 17:08

I used to but the novelty wore off many years ago. It would be relevant in my job but I rarely use it. Honestly people need to ask themselves why they would use it outside of a relevant professional arena?

Unescorted · 03/04/2023 17:09

Nope... I cannot be bothered explaining to people the what and whys. If people are going to treat me differently because of a title they deserve to make themselves known as an impolite idiot.

psychDr · 03/04/2023 17:10

Yup. I'm a clinical psychologist and I use the title Dr professionally on work emails and reports etc. Why wouldn't I? A significant amount of hard work went into gaining my Doctorate in Clinical Psychology.

SparklyLeprechaun · 03/04/2023 17:12

No, I find it pretentious and it's no one's business what level of education I've achieved.

lipstickwoman · 03/04/2023 17:13

SparklyLeprechaun · 03/04/2023 17:12

No, I find it pretentious and it's no one's business what level of education I've achieved.

Completely agree.

Heavensalongwayaway · 03/04/2023 17:19

Yes professionally but that’s all.

Blanketenvy · 03/04/2023 17:24

DP has it on his passport but doesn't use it otherwise as works in a hospital (in a fairly low level admin role) so it could get confusing!

LuckOfTheDrawer · 03/04/2023 17:24

I use it. It's relevant for my role, and it avoids the whole Mrs / Ms / not sure what my marital status has to do it with it issue.

I don't feel like either a Mrs or a Ms, so if a title is asked for, I give Dr.

Herethere123 · 03/04/2023 17:29

I haven't for the last 11 years because I wasn't working in an academic role and it felt pretentious even though I saw colleagues do it and didn't think of them as being pretentious. My issue probably. But I did feel like I was hiding something I was proud of. I am in a new job now and here it seems unremarkable to be a non-academic with a PhD and so I do use it more now bevause it doesn't feel like anything other than a factual representation. And I'm still proud of it :-)

strawberry12345 · 03/04/2023 17:34

Yes but only at work and with official bodies

for those saying it is on your passport, mine has no title and I don’t remember there being the option to add a title?

JennyMule · 03/04/2023 17:43

Congratulations on your PhD, OP. I've no idea what the current etiquette is but it always used to be considered somewhat gauche to use Dr (PhD) outside of academic & R&D job roles. These days none of the (medical) Drs I know now use Dr socially (avoiding being asked to advise on tennis elbow at a party, etc!) The novelty immediately post qualification soon wore off.

GasPanic · 03/04/2023 17:49

strawberry12345 · 03/04/2023 17:34

Yes but only at work and with official bodies

for those saying it is on your passport, mine has no title and I don’t remember there being the option to add a title?

It appears under the official observations along with various other stuff.

Talkingtomyhouseplants · 03/04/2023 17:52

PhDs are fucking hard you use that title with pride!

Talkingtomyhouseplants · 03/04/2023 17:55

DelurkingAJ · 03/04/2023 16:59

For official purposes. Not for work (although it has been used when useful by those who employ me…usually when they want a shorthand for ‘she’s clever and hardworking’). Also used when people patronise me…the car saleswomen who couldn’t believe I was buying myself a car (rather than DH paying for it comes to mind). And when I’m at DH’s school as I’m damned if we’re going to be ‘Dr & Mrs’ rather than ‘Dr & Dr’!

Apparently the correct etiquette when both married spouses have a doctorate is “The Doctors X” which I think sounds excellent

The Doctors Smith
The Doctors Smith-Jones
The Doctors Smith and Jones

handmademitlove · 03/04/2023 18:01

I use mine in official situations and when I need to indicate I have a brain 🙂. Also used by others for the same reason - I am often introduced as Dr handmade by others who want to convey that I should be taken seriously. It usually works well! I am also in a Dr & Dr household so useful for cold callers who ask to speak to Dr handmade - if they cannot specify which one they don't get through 🤣

Onegingerhead · 03/04/2023 18:06

I only use it professionally but I do work in academia (really want this to change tho, as the pay is so shit 😂). I m just a Mrs otherwise (bank, utilities, travel).