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To think 32.5 hours is full time?

351 replies

tillyandmolly · 31/03/2023 20:34

I'm at work 35 hours a week (5 x 7 hour shifts) with a 30 minute break, so technically it's 32.5. AIBU to think this is full time work?

Was out with some of my mum friends the other night and was straight up told how "it must be quite nice to have part time work even though the DC are in secondary school". My DC are in secondary school yes and I'm working full time because of that? (Not implying people have to of course, but it's full time surely?)

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Comii9 · 02/04/2023 16:44

MavisMcMinty · 02/04/2023 16:23

I’m retired now! But yes, nursing is pretty good anyway for part-time/flexible working hours - even full-timers on (frankly exhausting) 12.5 hour shifts get 3 or 4 days off each week to compensate.

That's interesting. I think when you are 20s and 30s you fly through. I imagine once you hit mid 40s (I'm not there yet) but getting to work for 7am isn't a great trade off for having extra days off. The evening thing is poor too for your social life by the time you get home it's shower and bed as you start work early the next say. Not to mention the shift patterns nights and days all in the same week.

ExperiencedTeacher · 02/04/2023 17:05

Main/Upper Pay Scale teachers are paid for 1265 hours/year which is roughly 32.5 hours per week/39 weeks per year.

School leaders have no limit on their hours.

Teachers report regularly working in excess of 55 hours/week.

There are lots of misconceptions about teachers’ hours.

housemaus · 02/04/2023 17:11

I do 35 hours and it's considered 'full time' - everyone at the company does. Either 9-5 (or 8-4, 10-6), with an hours' unpaid lunch. But I'm always very aware it's not as much as most people I know, who tend to do 9 - 5.30 with 30 min lunch!

Cyanchicken · 02/04/2023 17:28

I'd consider that "reduced hours" as opposed to part time. Part time to me is 4 hours or less per day type of thing!

Baconking · 02/04/2023 17:30

ADHDadvice · 31/03/2023 20:37

37 is standard in the whole of Civil Service as full time

32.5 would be classed as part time.

This!

I work 32 hours. Full time is 37, therefore I'm part time

Comefromaway · 02/04/2023 17:33

35 hours per week not including breaks is classed as full time.

NightSkyStars · 02/04/2023 19:09

Yes I am paid .8 of my full time salary.

Redladybirdbaglady · 02/04/2023 19:23

I've always considered 35+ full time and anything below part time, but I would say it depends on what is normal at your company. My current company has a full time equivalent of 37.5 hours, so if I dropped to 35, technically I'd be part time I guess. Either way, she just sounds jealous.

Cuppacharplease · 03/04/2023 07:55

I think it's all relative. I'm an A&E doctor and most of my working life 48 hours has been considered full time and I had to fill in lots of forms to reduce hours to 'less than full time' as it's officially called when I had small kids and wanted to 'only' work 40 hours and be part time. I don't think this normalisation of working so many hours is a good thing and happy to admit I'm quite jealous of workplaces where overworking isn't the norm. I think you get a bit of Stockholm syndrome in the NHS, after working 70+ hours at some points I started to think 48hrs was quite nice 🙈 Now I'm down to 40 I have time to have a life outside work and decompress properly from shifts I think 40 should be the norm!

The rhetoric is still very much out there though. Lots of headlines about 'part time GPs' are talking about people working 36+ hours a week rather than the usual 50+. I still consider that FT.

Your friend sounds jealous OP, nitpicking is not necessary.

MrsRaspberry · 03/04/2023 08:00

Its practically full time give or take a couple of hours. Whys this so called friend judging though? I'd tell her to fuck off and mind her own business about your work availability. You work 5 days a week it's not like you're drowning in free time especially as you also have a family to take care of too. Ask your mate what her problem is

Gooooo · 03/04/2023 08:07

I would personally class full time as over 35h per week (excluding lunch breaks)
Some places do 37, 37.5, 40 etc.. one place I did 42h per week!

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 03/04/2023 08:11

If the entire workforce at your place is contracted 32.5, or 32.5 is the most anyone does, then that is full time.just because it differs from a different person experience at their own employers doesn't change the actual fact that full time employees at your organisation work 32.5h.

DistrictCommissioner · 03/04/2023 08:15

I work 30 hours - no lunch break, 9-3pm x 5 days a week. Bloody well feels full time as I dash from school drop off to my desk, dash from my desk to school pick up, & then do the kids etc. But I do describe myself as part time.

Muminthebluecoat · 04/04/2023 08:39

Full time work is anywhere between 30 and 40 hours but a full time worker usually works 35 hours a week. That 35 doesn't include unpaid breaks so a 9-5 with 1 hour lunch unpaid would be 35 hours.

If you work 30 plus with no part time benefits (I.e a non working day a week) I would class you as full time.

PegSliderskew · 04/04/2023 09:35

If you're doing your employer's standard shift length, five days a week then yes, you are full time for that job/ your field generally. Other employers or fields might have longer shifts which would also count as full time.

Of course, I work 500 hours a week, but I'm very special ;D

Evenin · 04/04/2023 09:41

My current place 37hrs (after breaks) is full time.
My last place 42.5hrs (after breaks) was full time.

JaninaDuszejko · 04/04/2023 11:00

The standard working hours for your role is 32.5h and so you are FT. Doesn't matter if someone in another job at another organisation works 80 h a week, in your role that is FT. FWIW I think it might be a shift pattern thing to have slightly shorter hours, because I've just realised when we go on shift at work we a) get paid more and b) have shorter standard hours (in reality the shift workers come in a bit early and leave a bit late for handover so it probably works out).

Mainly though I think your friend was being a bit of a bitch. It's not like you have days at home alone with no kids, and frankly even if you did so what? I only give PT workers with school age kids a hard time if I find out they are WFH on the days they aren't paid, they should either not work, or increase their hours so they get paid for their work.

Irritateandunreasonable · 04/04/2023 13:21

I would class as part time for a young person living with parents and no other responsibilities.

I think it’s a bit of a cheek for friends to say to a woman with a house to run and kids to look after ‘it must be nice only working part time’ that would really get my back up. You’re there 35 hours, not 20.

UniversalMamma · 04/04/2023 21:25

PegSliderskew · 04/04/2023 09:35

If you're doing your employer's standard shift length, five days a week then yes, you are full time for that job/ your field generally. Other employers or fields might have longer shifts which would also count as full time.

Of course, I work 500 hours a week, but I'm very special ;D

😄😄

Join the queue, we’re all special here pal 😜😉

psychDr · 04/04/2023 21:26

I work 33.5 hours a week and I'm part time. My full time colleagues work 37.5 hrs a week.

OMGitsnotgood · 04/04/2023 21:29

32 hours is at the top end of part time. Full time usually 37,5 - 40 hours in every role I've ever done

CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 04/04/2023 21:33

Surely it depends on the organisations policy 🤔

I work 32.5 hrs per week, as do my colleagues who carry out an admin fuction. We all get a full time salary and our contracts are full-time.

Some of the organisation work unspecified hours, but still 32.5 per week. Full time.

ChickenMacaroni · 04/04/2023 21:39

32.5 is full time for teachers

Passivhaus · 04/04/2023 21:52

It's basically full time. I always view 35 hours as full time so a couple less isn't any different really

Yazo · 04/04/2023 23:43

It depends on your company, if that's their standard work week it's unsual but there's no set hours for full time. I used to work 35 hours a week but unpaid lunch on top so 9-5 with 1 hour unpaid lunch. Now it's 37 and I notice the difference. Of course on Mumsnet everyone claims to work 50 hours a week, 80 for teachers but you just do what you do. 32 hours a week is plenty and probably more productive than longer hours!