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AIBU?

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To be so frustrated with this country’s public?

63 replies

Hotcrossbunnyy · 30/03/2023 12:48

You see protests on the news, France having 2023 revolution, the protests in Istanbul a few years ago, Spain, Iran, state of emergency in Lima.

But the British public is the epitome of the by stander effect. No one doing anything because no one else is.
We should be on our streets but yet we’re all just struggling along with the state of our country.

AIBU to find it so frustrating we don’t fight back?
Im sitting here watching France protest on the news while I sit here with an empty stomach, 3p in the bank, been told 6 years waiting list to be assessed for my health issues and I’m going to work soon and it feels like it’s for nothing yet We don’t do anything collectively

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Pattypop · 30/03/2023 15:34

sst1234 · 30/03/2023 13:15

The French are protesting because they don’t want to raise the pension age. And would rather go bankrupt like Greece did. Not exactly smart. We actually need leaders like Macron that will make the tough decisions, rather than the morons we have in charge at the moment.

This! I’m not daft enough to think a retirement age of 62 is a good thing. It’s not.

Pattypop · 30/03/2023 15:37

Thinking of things I’d protest about the list is quite short:

Tory corruption
Sewage being released into our waterways and beaches because the water companies want to pay bonuses and dividends instead of investing in infrastructure.
Scottish Nationalists trying to gaslight a nation into thinking Indy is a good idea.

not much else.

MintJulia · 30/03/2023 15:46

Why are you sitting there watching tv when you could be earning. Then you'd have more than 3p in the bank.

I've just finished a 50 hour week. I'm tired but I can still pay my bills. I don't want to riot thx. I want lunch and then go for a run.

escapingthecity · 30/03/2023 15:52

Have you not noticed the strikes by doctors, teachers, train drivers, passport office staff etc etc etc?

Waydown · 30/03/2023 15:54

We had the Brexit demonstrations, we had gridlock here for many days last summer (?) because of environmental protests, we've had strikes.

What protests have you organised OP?

Middletoleft · 30/03/2023 15:56

IrishGothic · 30/03/2023 13:22

I don't think you're a nation of 'bystanders' -- it's far worse. You keep voting in Tory governments and you apparently appear to continue to broadly support the ridiculous anachronism that is the royal family. I would say you were colluding in your own oppression.

Got it in a oner.

notimagain · 30/03/2023 15:56

EuripidesEumenides · 30/03/2023 13:48

Marine Le Pen is waiting in the wings if Macron's government collapses due to the riots, not some progressive utopia. I'm chill about not having that in the UK.

Happy to be corrected but I don't think that's the case at all...

This is really one for a French politics specialist but as I see it at party level generally the slightly right/right of centre here is a bit of a mess.

My understanding is if Macron's government falls completely the most likely outcome is that France would end up with a left of centre coalition with the likes of Melenchon et.al. pulling the strings.....

Bumpinthenighttime · 30/03/2023 16:44

I keep reading/hearing people complaining that ‘we’ aren’t doing anything/rioting but instead just complaining, while completely ignoring. The fact all they are doing is complaining.

No one I’ve read/heard complaining has organised a protest/riot or written to their MP or even started a petition. If you think ‘we’ should be protesting then organise it and publicise it.

1offnamechange · 30/03/2023 18:01

it's not the epitome of the bystander effect ffs, it's the complete opposite - the bystander effect isn't when you don't take action because nobody else is either, it's when you don't take action because you assume someone else its!

Also - have you missed all the strikes that have been going on over the last few months? How about all the BLM demos that were (largely) condemned on here (due to happening during lockdown/covid restrictions).

Plus "action' of the type you are citing rarely changes anything anyway - the war on iraq demo was the biggest turn out in history and it still went ahead. The last 'riots' we had were the 2011 english ones which again everyone condemned and were for no real purpose.

You realise 50 people have been killed and around 700 others injured in the Lima protests you're referring to? How is that desirable?

Neededanewuserhandle · 30/03/2023 18:10

AIBU to find it so frustrating we don’t fight back?
I agree - but not to the point of rioting.
There is a certain cap-doffing race to the bottom mentality among some people in this country that is holding us all back and keeping us as serfs.

Neededanewuserhandle · 30/03/2023 18:11

Middletoleft · 30/03/2023 15:56

Got it in a oner.

Yup

MrsMurphyIWish · 30/03/2023 18:11

I’m striking - isn’t that a form of protest?

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