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VaddaABeetch · 31/03/2023 08:47

KJK says she’ll reschedule. Hurrah.
In the meantime anyone interested in going to Belfast, I’ll be be travelling on the he TERF Train from Dublin holding a large banner.

Naunet · 31/03/2023 09:04

Another violent, woman hating misogynist, emboldened enough now to publicly threaten women. Right side of HIStory folks.

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Mommymoments · 31/03/2023 10:53

[email protected] if anyone wants to email RTÉ tv network to complain about their presenter Panti Bliss's womanphobic tweets.

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Want2beme · 31/03/2023 10:58

Mommymoments · 31/03/2023 10:53

[email protected] if anyone wants to email RTÉ tv network to complain about their presenter Panti Bliss's womanphobic tweets.

I don't watch RTÉ, or any of them, but I'll certainly email them. Wish many more women would come to their senses.

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Mommymoments · 31/03/2023 11:19

Thanks, I emailed RTÉ & I got a response to say it was being passed onto the weekly feedback team. The more complaints they get about this woman hating nut job the better. He's a dangerous man. Calling for women to be attacked while they're protesting.

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JaneJeffer · 31/03/2023 11:46

What does he present on RTÉ?

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Mommymoments · 31/03/2023 11:57

https://www.rte.ie/author/812163-panti-bliss/

Link to his RTÉ credentials.. Often on also as a guest presenter.

Panti Bliss

Latest articles by Panti Bliss

https://www.rte.ie/author/812163-panti-bliss

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JaneJeffer · 31/03/2023 12:33

Thanks @Mommymoments

VaddaABeetch · 31/03/2023 13:19

I’ve also complained

Awaiting a mealy mouthed word salad response.

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Mommymoments · 31/03/2023 13:47

Panti has just tweeted trans people are under attack & it's scary... Can he for one second imagine what it's like for biological women. What an absolute hypocrite.

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VaddaABeetch · 31/03/2023 14:12

Under attack where & by whom?

Is he saying that Irish women attending a women’s event want to attack Trans People? Maybe attack the women first just in case? You never know, those women standing there being all womany.

It must be hard living a life with that much cognitive dissonance,

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Mommymoments · 31/03/2023 17:34

Just got an email back from the local td. I wrote to him outing my concerns regarding transgenderism & women's rights being eroded.

He responded that he didn't support my views. He was sorry to hear that I'll not vote for Fine Gael & that Fine Gael are working hard to make Ireland a better place for ALL women..
Furious.. All women (including the ones with penesis). Absolutely bulling.

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AeroMintChocolate · 31/03/2023 17:38

Mommymoments · 31/03/2023 17:34

Just got an email back from the local td. I wrote to him outing my concerns regarding transgenderism & women's rights being eroded.

He responded that he didn't support my views. He was sorry to hear that I'll not vote for Fine Gael & that Fine Gael are working hard to make Ireland a better place for ALL women..
Furious.. All women (including the ones with penesis). Absolutely bulling.

Translation he wants a male supremacy Ireland.

Do you have an Irish equivalent Twitter account?

https://mobile.twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1442783035389325313?cxt=HHwWgsC5hdnh5YUoAAAA

https://mobile.twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1442783035389325313?cxt=HHwWgsC5hdnh5YUoAAAA

literalviolence · 31/03/2023 17:58

ArianahX · 29/03/2023 18:46

And please don't jump on me and say 'but a man can't become a woman', because in my view they can be considered to be a woman following surgery. That's my own personal view.

Given that surgery does not change your chromosomes, does not give you female genitalia (just some mock up) and does not give you female pattern hormones really, just gives you some similar artificial made ones, what do you think makes someone a woman?

literalviolence · 31/03/2023 18:00

Mommymoments · 31/03/2023 13:47

Panti has just tweeted trans people are under attack & it's scary... Can he for one second imagine what it's like for biological women. What an absolute hypocrite.

Under attack by who? Women saying get thr fuck out of our spaces you misogynistic duck is not attack. It's funking defence.

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Mommymoments · 31/03/2023 18:02

@literalviolence but we're not allowed defend ourselves. They think they are perfectly entitled to our rights & spaces.. Unreal.

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literalviolence · 31/03/2023 18:02

ArianahX · 29/03/2023 18:48

I dislike the sound of this Panti Bliss man, but I can't say I like the sound of KJK and her ultra right fans either.

Many of them are very left actually. Most TRAs are far right. Don't be fooled by farcical self declarations. It's like the old 'I'm not being racist but...(insert something hideously racist)'. Mud flinging at those you're attacking by calling them ultra right does not make it true.

literalviolence · 31/03/2023 18:04

ArianahX · 29/03/2023 19:00

@SolitaryMind no I'm referring to men who take female hormones, have all male parts removed, female outer parts created deliberately & facial surgery & laser hair removal done to become more feminine.

A man with a penis removed as per your example is only female if the intention to become and live fully as a woman is there and if he does the rest / or most of the above plus changes his name & changes the sex on his birth certificate.

For example some men with eg Prostate Cancer sometimes need hormone therapy - which can make male breasts more obvious, smoothe the skin, make hair luxuriant etc an effect a bit like HRT, as my grandad found.
But taken in isolation that is just a cancer treatment. It does not at all make a man a female.

What does live as a woman mean?

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Mommymoments · 31/03/2023 18:06

literalviolence · 31/03/2023 18:02

Many of them are very left actually. Most TRAs are far right. Don't be fooled by farcical self declarations. It's like the old 'I'm not being racist but...(insert something hideously racist)'. Mud flinging at those you're attacking by calling them ultra right does not make it true.

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The trans are all about advocating for free speech unless you innocently question or speak out against them or any of their ideologies...
Then they turn into sharks looking for your blood.

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OneTC · 31/03/2023 18:21

Whilst I don't think people should be attacking others, or inciting violence against her, I do only have limited sympathy for an islamophobic friend of Are Tommy, who allies herself with white supremacists, anti abortionists and religious fundamentalists, has herself incited violence and invited men into women's toilets on the proviso they are carrying a gun.

Whilst I consider myself to be very GC I am also frequently uncomfortable about who that position allies me with. Parker and other grifters are a part of that

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Mommymoments · 31/03/2023 18:44

@VaddaABeetch & Irish mumsnetters look at the absolute hell Roderic O Gorman is getting this evening over his very badly worded tweet which did not go down well with the gay community &, rightly so!

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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VaddaABeetch · 01/04/2023 10:28

Great to see Irish People are on to this . Poor old Rodders I could almost feel sorry for him……except NO…big eejit.

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Mommymoments · 01/04/2023 12:35

Panti tweeting & retweeting about mumsnet transphobes right now..
Looks like some men have their knickers in a twist!

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Leopardprintonsie · 01/04/2023 16:19

The woman hating womanphobes are not liking all the people in Ireland emailing the tds! Panti's knickers in a twist all day retweeting!
Lets up the ante & let ALL our TDs & Ministers know we want womens rights & spaces for biological women only.

Trans man calls for a repeat of an attack on a woman's rights activist. Aibu that police need to be involved & this man removed from television?
literalviolence · 01/04/2023 22:32

ArianahX · 29/03/2023 19:00

@SolitaryMind no I'm referring to men who take female hormones, have all male parts removed, female outer parts created deliberately & facial surgery & laser hair removal done to become more feminine.

A man with a penis removed as per your example is only female if the intention to become and live fully as a woman is there and if he does the rest / or most of the above plus changes his name & changes the sex on his birth certificate.

For example some men with eg Prostate Cancer sometimes need hormone therapy - which can make male breasts more obvious, smoothe the skin, make hair luxuriant etc an effect a bit like HRT, as my grandad found.
But taken in isolation that is just a cancer treatment. It does not at all make a man a female.

Surgeons can't create female parts. They can just mock up something with superficial similarity. What does living as a woman mean?