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ArianahX · 29/03/2023 18:46

And please don't jump on me and say 'but a man can't become a woman', because in my view they can be considered to be a woman following surgery. That's my own personal view.

LooseGoose22 · 29/03/2023 18:47

Anyway, it seems he's a drag "queen" butbuf he was trans, I believe he's a 'trans woman " not a trans man. A trans man is a natal woman who identifies as a man.

(Except when they want to have babies, then they temporarily identify as a woman, or somehow do the thing only women can do without identifying as a woman).

SolitaryMind · 29/03/2023 18:48

ArianahX · 29/03/2023 18:46

And please don't jump on me and say 'but a man can't become a woman', because in my view they can be considered to be a woman following surgery. That's my own personal view.

Do you also consider a man who has his penis damaged, removed for non gender reasons to be a woman?

LooseGoose22 · 29/03/2023 18:48

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JaneJeffer · 29/03/2023 18:48

He's not a trans woman he's a drag queen.

ArianahX · 29/03/2023 18:48

I dislike the sound of this Panti Bliss man, but I can't say I like the sound of KJK and her ultra right fans either.

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fliptopbin · 29/03/2023 18:51

Surely this person is a trans woman?

JaneJeffer · 29/03/2023 18:51

Yeah she's a bit of an Enoch Burke isn't she @ArianahX Grin

JaneJeffer · 29/03/2023 18:52

No @fliptopbin

Trans man calls for a repeat of an attack on a woman's rights activist. Aibu that police need to be involved & this man removed from television?
Quveas · 29/03/2023 18:55

Mommymoments · 29/03/2023 18:00

@Brahumbug we pay through the nose for our fecking tv licenses he in Ireland. He needs to be removed from tv ASAP like Gary Lineker. Panti Bliss's comments are inciting hatred & violence towards women who are getting more & more oppressed in Ireland daily. No exaggeration.

Wtf? I have no idea who Bliss is. Nor do I care. But Lineker had not been removed from TV. And he was defending vulnerable people in his PRIVATE life. He was defending people AGAINST hatred and violence.

OneLongSmorgasbord · 29/03/2023 18:55

His name says it all really, doesn't it?

AeroMintChocolate · 29/03/2023 18:56

OK, have I this right?

The individual is an intact biological male who spends time as a drag Queen and this individual thinks that they are the Queen of Ireland?

This individual isn't happy that KJK is going to provide an occasion, amplifiers and a YouTube channel, to allow Irish women speak?

Quveas · 29/03/2023 18:57

Quveas · 29/03/2023 18:55

Wtf? I have no idea who Bliss is. Nor do I care. But Lineker had not been removed from TV. And he was defending vulnerable people in his PRIVATE life. He was defending people AGAINST hatred and violence.

Oh, just to add... he didn't need backup from fascists to do it.

LooseGoose22 · 29/03/2023 18:58

I think the threads are to get attention ..... which he hopes to translate into money.

ArianahX · 29/03/2023 19:00

@SolitaryMind no I'm referring to men who take female hormones, have all male parts removed, female outer parts created deliberately & facial surgery & laser hair removal done to become more feminine.

A man with a penis removed as per your example is only female if the intention to become and live fully as a woman is there and if he does the rest / or most of the above plus changes his name & changes the sex on his birth certificate.

For example some men with eg Prostate Cancer sometimes need hormone therapy - which can make male breasts more obvious, smoothe the skin, make hair luxuriant etc an effect a bit like HRT, as my grandad found.
But taken in isolation that is just a cancer treatment. It does not at all make a man a female.

JacquelinePot · 29/03/2023 19:01

Confusion over whether HE is a transman or transwoman can be avoided by calling him what he is - a man.

Don't play their language games.

Also, yanbu, obviously.

ArianahX · 29/03/2023 19:02

Agree re Lineker with @Quveas

Mommymoments · 29/03/2023 19:04

Quveas · 29/03/2023 18:55

Wtf? I have no idea who Bliss is. Nor do I care. But Lineker had not been removed from TV. And he was defending vulnerable people in his PRIVATE life. He was defending people AGAINST hatred and violence.

Excatly Gary was wrongly removed. This absolute womanphobe has called for violence against women so should be removed from his TV roles. Women are a large demographic of RTÉ viewers!

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Unsure33 · 29/03/2023 19:04

ArianahX · 29/03/2023 18:48

I dislike the sound of this Panti Bliss man, but I can't say I like the sound of KJK and her ultra right fans either.

Have you actually listened to any of her speeches or podcasts ? Or had to face up to what she has ? Or just listened to MSM ?

Mommymoments · 29/03/2023 19:05

LooseGoose22 · 29/03/2023 18:58

I think the threads are to get attention ..... which he hopes to translate into money.

Well he needs to be removed from tv & all the media outlets lining his pockets.

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Mommymoments · 29/03/2023 19:10

AeroMintChocolate · 29/03/2023 18:56

OK, have I this right?

The individual is an intact biological male who spends time as a drag Queen and this individual thinks that they are the Queen of Ireland?

This individual isn't happy that KJK is going to provide an occasion, amplifiers and a YouTube channel, to allow Irish women speak?

Yes that's right & the women's rights rally is in Dublin in April 15th so he has called on the women's rights activist to be attacked as per his tweet. Also there is a Trans counter rally organised for the same day which this woman hater has been part of the organising of.

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Giggorata · 29/03/2023 19:11

Let's just be clear. This person is a man, and a violent mysogynistic one.
Anything else about him is just window dressing.

He has committed assault and is stating his intention of doing so again.
He should be arrested.
Women and girls should be protected from violent hate filled thugs.
That is all.

SolitaryMind · 29/03/2023 19:13

Ah so if they pass then. You’ll find very few of them will go through all that and if they do how desperately sad to be that unwell. A man who’s been castrated and takes hormones is still a man. Femininity does not make a woman 🤷‍♀️

Mommymoments · 29/03/2023 19:13

@Giggorata yes he's a man & also a TV presenter in Ireland.

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