To think junk food tastes so much better than healthy food?

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Keep reading about all the debates about food , obesity etc. I used to be obese I had weight loss surgery a few years ago now my BMI is 21 from 41. I've lost half my body weight it's no issue staying slim as I physically cannot eat much even crappy foods . I eat a relatively healthy diet now because I need too or I will be malnourished.
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I will say though in my obesity journey is it doesn't matter how much I educated myself about food , cooked healthy meals the allure of fatty burgers and junk was so tempting. I loved fatty food it tastes better. Even gourmet eating out I prefer rich sauces with fat.

I generally believe even with education , extra taxes some people will choose to eat shit food because it tastes so much nicer than 99 percent of healthy food.

Hmm not really. I used to think that but after suffering from stomach issues for the last few years I am far more tempted by salad with some nice chicken and flatbread than an indian takeaway. There aren't many junk foods I like now more than the homecooked meals I make. Maybe it's an age thing! Your taste buds do change with age after all.

I’m not sure how that burger can be cheaper than a Big Mac, which costs £4.99.

Two butchers organic beef burgers will be £3-4 depending on where you get them. That leaves you with everything else to get for under £2. It may end up cheaper if you’re making a few, but for one?

Exactly! If the post was “crisps and chocolate taste good”, then fine. But the post is “chicken thighs and olive oil are junk food because they are high in fat and they just keep ignoring any pushback.

Theres been a massive rise in posts by a anorexic posters in the last few weeks. I remember all the pro ana communities growing up and they were weirdly disingenuous like this. Some weird “I feel fat at a BMI of 19” posts appearing on style and beauty threads. I think posters like these are pretty ill actually. They need help.

Also she really really really clearly can’t cook.

“Making a curry from scratch” - stirring in a jar of “Thai green curry” from tescos into a cup of cream. Look at me mum, I’m a real chef 🙄

Ok - shopping list and maths:

• 600g organic premium quality minced steak, £6.40, makes four burgers
• Organic red onions, £2.60 per kilo
• Pack of six organic brioche burger buns £4.20
• Organic lettuce £2.20
• Fresh organic herbs (coriander or parsley) £2.15 for 30g
• 250g block of cheddar £3.85
• Organic burger relish £3.19 for 125g jar
• Jar of organic kimchi, £4.50 for 350g
• Oil £3.50 for 500ml

Per burger cost:
minced steak £1.60
Bun = 70p
Lettuce = 30p
Onion ring = 7p
Herbs for burger = 35p
Slice of cheddar = 50p
Relish = 60p
Kimchi (or you could add a gherkin) = 63p
Oil = 10p
Hob to cook burger = 12p

Total per burger for premium, gastro pub quality = £4.97

Vs £4.99 for a Big Mac

Crisps just taste oily. Burgers are so unsatisfying.

A good, well cooked and healthy meal is divine. I love, and I mean LOVE salads.

Per burger, yes. I said that it might work out for a number of them. But it very clearly is not cheaper for a single one.

"Theres been a massive rise in posts by a anorexic posters in the last few weeks. I remember all the pro ana communities growing up and they were weirdly disingenuous like this. Some weird “I feel fat at a BMI of 19” posts appearing on style and beauty threads. I think posters like these are pretty ill actually. They need help."

I've noticed that too. I was on a thread yesterday about body shapes that don't suit our personal style, and someone came on to tell us that it was all to do with our weight and if we'd only get down to a BMI of 18-20, we'd look great in anything...

This would make four burgers. As a parenting forum, it’s realistic to assume that a majority of people reading are in a family group and would make that kind of quantity.

But if you live alone and want to make yourself a single burger, buy the amount of mince you need and a bun loose, or freeze parts of larger packs for the next time you fancy a burger. It isn’t complicated!

Or if you don’t have time or can’t be bothered, just get the Big Mac.

But it comes back to the point that the cost of fast food is about convenience rather than the quality of the ingredients.

Well, yes. Homemade food is almost always cheaper given economies of scale, ability to flex what you spend on ingredients, portion control etc. Unless you factor in time=money (or other non-cashable benefits). If you live alone though then that changes a bit and many of your ingredients wouldn’t keep so perhaps not the best example!

I can definitely make 4 burgers come out to a cheaper cost than 4 big macs, obviously the smaller the number of portions the less cost-effective it is.

4 brioche buns - £1.09
500g of 12% fat mincemeat - £2.90
3 onions - £1.10
Lettuce head - £0.70
= £5.79

Then the price goes up depending on which sauces you already have at home (or have left from previous takeaway visits).

I was taking about the previous posters exact burger, which had quite a lot of extras on it. A basic burger like you describe is even cheaper, of course it is, as I’ve already said. (Cheese is getting more expensive as we all know).

I’m not sure any more what point is being made? I foolishly popped up to say that the homemade burger as described really couldn’t be made for the same price. But I’m not about to say cooking at home isn’t cheaper than buying food in a lot of cases. I think we all agree that it’s about more than the cost of ingredients.