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To wonder who eats this food and why?

507 replies

BingoBonus · 22/03/2023 10:26

https://groceries.asda.com/product/plant-based-meat-alternatives/plant-based-by-asda-chicken-style-fillets/1000383161908

Plant-based chicken-style breaded fillet. The main two ingredients are water and oil!

I don't understand the boom in plant-based ultra-processed foods...........do people actually buy these as a healthy option? And if you are vegetarian why would you want something that looked like meat?

https://groceries.asda.com/product/plant-based-meat-alternatives/plant-based-by-asda-chicken-style-fillets/1000383161908

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Radical0pal · 22/03/2023 21:24

Vegans are allowed to eat crap. At least they are not eating dead animals

GCWorkNightmare · 22/03/2023 21:25

PuddlesPityParty · 22/03/2023 20:26

You sound pathetic 🥱

I don’t eat a lot of meat alternatives. You know what I do eat? Veg, pulses, I make my own lentil shepards pie, or a nice soup. Is anyone forcing you to buy and eat meat alternatives? Spoiler alert - no.

Get a life and grow up saddo.

Charming. I make 99% of my own food.

not sure why not liking meat means I shouldn’t be able to eat out.

(I don’t eat carbs or tomatoes which knocks out the standard veggie fayre of jacket potatoes, risotto and pasta.)

GCWorkNightmare · 22/03/2023 21:26

I also weight lift and aim for 150g proteins day. Pretty impossible on soup, lentils and pulses.

BingoBonus · 22/03/2023 21:27

I picked a plant-based item of ultra-processed food as it is marketed at non meat eaters and meat eaters and plant-based foods tend to be marketed as "healthy".
A lot of these foods contain pea protein which is become much more common as an allergen.

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Radical0pal · 22/03/2023 21:30

Advancedpie · 22/03/2023 15:16

I'm totally with you @BingoBonus I saw an add for this type of false food recently & thought 'Who on earth eats this junk?'. You leave meat out but then fake it? Madness.

How is it madness. Nothing was killed.

How can people be this blinkered?
Are you in complete denial about where your meat comes from?

Artemisty · 22/03/2023 21:30

They shouldn't be marketed as more healthy you're right about that. However it is nice to have a meat free convenience food.
But you could just have easily picked out pepperami, cocoa pops, Ben and Jerry's ice cream. Or any other ultra processed food.

And I wouldn't call out 'angry vegans'!! You did post on AIBU after all...

Pestispeeved · 22/03/2023 21:35

HereForTheFreeLunch · 22/03/2023 12:14

Water, oil and then... Wheat Protein (9%), Soya Protein Concentrate (5%), Pea Protein (4%)!
How does it even hold shape?

If you took al the water and fat out of a chicken it wouldn't hold it's shape either.

VeganVeteran · 22/03/2023 21:45

@GCWorkNightmare it is becoming so much more frequent for me and it makes me so happy. It's so nice to be able to just get food without it being a chore.

I lift weights too, do 50 pressups a day without fail.

@AllOfThemWitches we've been raping children and killing/ostracising people for their beliefs/gender/appearance since the beginning of time too, is that okay as well?I don't buy that argument. Just because we've done something for a long time, doesn't mean It's the right thing to do.

Pestispeeved · 22/03/2023 21:46

I think we have to face the fact, processing food makes money. The wealth of processed foods out there is pheromonal, people buy them, lots of people buy them. Otherwise you have to have the time, money and skills to cook from scratch every single day.

Pea allergies are quite rare and usually a spin off from peanut allergies.

You can buy dried pea or soy protein, it needs time and knowledge to make it taste good.

DannyZukosSmile · 22/03/2023 21:50

Radical0pal · 22/03/2023 21:24

Vegans are allowed to eat crap. At least they are not eating dead animals

No, they're just helping 100s of 1000s of animals lose their homes and die, so they can get the palm oil they need for their shitty vegan trash food.

Improbablecat · 22/03/2023 21:52

I don't get it either. I'm vegetarian and despair nowadays. Not so long ago you could get veggie nugget things that were made of actual recognisable vegetables like peas and carrots, smushed together and breaded. They were grand for a quick easy meal - I used to have them for night shifts.

I can't stand the weird fake meats and that's all my local supermarket seem to have now. I am unsure who they're marketed at as they're not good for the environment due to all the processing and most vegans I know are generally eco friendly as well as pro animal rights

BadForBusiness · 22/03/2023 22:10

DannyZukosSmile · 22/03/2023 21:50

No, they're just helping 100s of 1000s of animals lose their homes and die, so they can get the palm oil they need for their shitty vegan trash food.

And your evidence that vegans eat more palm oil than omnivores is????

vitahelp · 22/03/2023 22:22

BingoBonus · 22/03/2023 21:27

I picked a plant-based item of ultra-processed food as it is marketed at non meat eaters and meat eaters and plant-based foods tend to be marketed as "healthy".
A lot of these foods contain pea protein which is become much more common as an allergen.

It’s nothing new or specific to meat alternatives though is it? So many things are marketed as healthy when they aren’t - cereal bars, cereals, salads with dressing on etc etc. If you’re bothered about being healthy you have to be smart about it, but everyone already knows that.

MakingTheVeganYorkshirePud · 22/03/2023 22:27

HRTWT but I eat fake meat because whilst I liked the taste of meat, I didn't like the fact that animals were killed to provide it. I won't argue that fake me is healthy, but I don't eat it for health reasons.

There are some great alternatives now, which emulate the taste, and texture of meat. The only thing I'm looking for in the ingredients is that it doesn't contain milk or eggs. I don't care about anything else.

wehavenotomatoes · 22/03/2023 22:30

If that had been around when I was 14 and going veggie I would have eaten it. My parents are meat and 3 veg kind of people not tofu and lentils kind of people so it would have been a lot easier for them to understand they were eating chicken breast and I was eating that.
These days I don't like most meat alternatives as they taste too meaty and eating out I worry I'm getting served the wrong thing even if the difference is laughable to a meat eater.
I made seitan nuggets recently which were deep fried so hardly a health food, despite being high in protein.
A it's the overall diet not the food that's healthy, surely most people follow the 80/20 nutrient dense rule. If you only ate whole foods you'd miss out on some really enjoyable things without adding that much to your life. Moderation is important.
B nuggets, whether chicken or vegan, aren't a health food. They come into the 20% thing and the only reason anyone would really eat them is because they like the taste and they feel like it. Vegetarians and vegans would feel that it's kind of pointless for a chicken to die so they could have some junk food.

midlander79 · 22/03/2023 22:34

BadForBusiness · 22/03/2023 22:10

And your evidence that vegans eat more palm oil than omnivores is????

My thoughts too. Especially as a lot of vegans are more seriously against it and more mindful of their diet and its impact.

MakingTheVeganYorkshirePud · 22/03/2023 22:35

DannyZukosSmile · 22/03/2023 21:50

No, they're just helping 100s of 1000s of animals lose their homes and die, so they can get the palm oil they need for their shitty vegan trash food.

Mmmm. I bet you more vegans than omnivores would put something back on the shelf that contained palm oil.

AllOfThemWitches · 22/03/2023 22:37

Bit like a cheap, gristly meat one then

Don't buy cheap gristly meat...

Anotheroverreaction · 22/03/2023 22:38

Yawn

catsinwater · 23/03/2023 09:58

Lol at the "palm oil" comments. As a vegan I always put any palm oil product back on the shelf. Most of my omni friends however don't even check the ingredients.

Itsneverwhatitseems · 23/03/2023 10:24

GCWorkNightmare · 22/03/2023 21:26

I also weight lift and aim for 150g proteins day. Pretty impossible on soup, lentils and pulses.

A 200g portion of home made seitan will give you 150g of protein and that’s without eating anything else

Whaeanui · 23/03/2023 10:43

Oh this thread is funny! Starts a goady thread focused for some reason on vegetarians and vegans about junk food and then concludes vegans are angry for pointing out some of the ridiculousness on the thread.

These items are not just for vegans and veges, plenty of people eat them to reduce meat intake and for variety, with only a teeny tiny percentage of the population being vegan the huge volume of plant based junk foods aren’t just eaten by vegans! That’s just basic math.

As a farmers daughter myself, you might want to know that your meat is processed too. Heavily heavily processed. From the start of the animals life, to its death, and then in the processing of the meat. Deli meats are the most processed food you could imagine. Even my farmer Dad doesn’t eat that crap, although he will eat his brothers ham which even though processed in my Uncles killing house and butchery, is still heavily processed with huge volumes of salt.

they made these junk foods to imitate what you get from meat: fat and salt. I think very few people buying don’t realise they’re junk foods. For vegans, the focus is not harming animals if you have the choice not to, so things tasting like or looking like meat are not relevant or off putting to many. Some vegans don’t like it though. Everyone is different.

I don’t know why there is some sort of responsibility or expectation on vegans and vegetarians to adhere to some kind of health plan that animal product consumers aren’t or why vegans aren’t allowed junk in the same way without being audited over it, but junk food and poor eating is a problem in our society that existed before these newer types of processed ‘plant’ foods existed- although they’re more like edible food like substances to me. Why it’s suddenly so alarming or concerning to you that plant eaters might be eating junk, when animal product consumers eat junk food all the time on top of their heavily processed meat and dairy, is rather strange to me.

GCWorkNightmare · 23/03/2023 10:45

Itsneverwhatitseems · 23/03/2023 10:24

A 200g portion of home made seitan will give you 150g of protein and that’s without eating anything else

I can’t eat gluten.

Whaeanui · 23/03/2023 10:46

I also weight lift and aim for 150g proteins day. Pretty impossible on soup, lentils and pulses.

Soup? 😂 You may want to look up the strongest man in Germany, or Robert Cheeke or some of the All Blacks who are vegetarian or vegan. They seem to manage fine! Every man I know who lifts weights a lot consumes dairy based protein powder in a shake, or maybe a soup? 😂

Brefugee · 23/03/2023 10:47

have not RTFT. I sometimes eat them because i like meat but the thought of biting into gristle or fat makes me want to vomit.

So I'll eat a "meat" pie made with not real meat because no chance of that happening, but I'll eat a filet steak because also no chance of that happening.