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To think the reintroduction of the wild Wolf to Belgium is insanity?

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HoppsAndSpice · 20/03/2023 23:50

Wild Wolves have been reintroduced into Belgium over the last couple of weeks. This has led to the great dismay of the local farming community and outrage from the country as a whole. I am personally thinking about the many farmers who will lose cattle and sheep to the wolves and the impact it will have on their livelihood. Also the impact it will have on the wider ecosystem as a whole which could see various creatures such as rabbits, hares and other small mammals hunted in large quantities.

Wolves have a very inefficient digestive system as do most carnivores which means they need large quantities of meat to survive.

Its a very interesting one but I think this needs resolving urgently as a matter of urgency.

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StrawHatOnTheParcelShelf · 21/03/2023 02:12

Elliania · 21/03/2023 01:56

Is it just me or is anyone else reading "invasive wolves" and keep thinking of an army of wolves in viking helmets with spears and shields getting ready to invade Britain by commandeering a ferry?

I think that's the exact scenario the OP is attempting to convey.

TheLastofmySanity · 21/03/2023 02:14

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 21/03/2023 00:38

Well the obvious answer to the global overpopulation crisis is to reintroduce something everywhere that predates human beings.

My vote is for genetically modified giant Velociraptors. They might help with the giant bunny problem in Belgium too.

The giant ones are utahraptors. They would probably help with the human over population issue as well.

TheLastofmySanity · 21/03/2023 02:15

TheLastofmySanity · 21/03/2023 02:14

The giant ones are utahraptors. They would probably help with the human over population issue as well.

Ha, obviously didn't read your first paragraph!

SNWannabe · 21/03/2023 02:15

Where do the bison fit in?

In bathrooms usually… to wash your hands in…
(that’s how you can tell buffalo from bison- you can’t wash your hands in a buffalo)

Not only the wolves would be howling at this joke!!!

Gremlinsateit · 21/03/2023 02:29

Here in Aust we have reintroduced the Tasmanian Devil to the mainland, in a small monitored population on 500 ha, as an ark because of the contagious tumour disease (truly). I am waiting with bated breath to see what their food of choice is.

Gremlinsateit · 21/03/2023 02:31

SNWannabe · 21/03/2023 02:15

Where do the bison fit in?

In bathrooms usually… to wash your hands in…
(that’s how you can tell buffalo from bison- you can’t wash your hands in a buffalo)

Not only the wolves would be howling at this joke!!!

Fabulous, thank you :)

Vanillazebra · 21/03/2023 02:33

You are being hysterical. I live on Vancouver Island and we have wolves here, and cougars and bears. They are part of the eco system

www.rewildingbritain.org.uk/explore-rewilding/reintroductions-key-species/rewilding-superstars/eurasian-wolf

BaroldFromEastenders · 21/03/2023 02:39

I think the op has a point about the rabbit population - it’s not a species well known for proliferate breeding after all. Better get started on the save the bunny campaign.

BaroldFromEastenders · 21/03/2023 02:42

TheBlessedCheesemaker · 21/03/2023 02:01

This is almost as good as the thread about the bastard, vicious dolphins <hunts for link>

That’s a good point perhaps the dolphins can turn the wolves back before the bison have to get involved

ChannelyourinnerElsa · 21/03/2023 02:50

Stop focusing on the beavers. They come with more problems- they have to bring their own barbers too, and what will the British barbers do if we have all these new ones coming in?

plus, Brenda does not need to be shooting up the naming charts like it’s 1959.

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/03/2023 02:51

Gremlinsateit · 21/03/2023 02:29

Here in Aust we have reintroduced the Tasmanian Devil to the mainland, in a small monitored population on 500 ha, as an ark because of the contagious tumour disease (truly). I am waiting with bated breath to see what their food of choice is.

Now that's the start of a horror film. Devil tumour disease. BAz could make it a musical.

Pinkplasticbathcup · 21/03/2023 02:54

Haven’t RYFT but have a look at what happened when they reintroduced wolves to Yellowstone National Park. It did wonders for the ecosystem - rebalanced it. You need an apex predator for a functioning ecosystem. Also have a look at rewilding by George Monbiot.

Imisscoffee2021 · 21/03/2023 02:57

@HoppsAndSpice so it's now ok for an animal population to be driven to extinction by humans then denied a comeback because it might mildly interrupt humans bloated and wasteful food chain? Perhaps if farmers weren't given such tight margins with which to make a living, a few losses (and it would be a few,) wouldn't hit them so hard. More animals are lost to disease or exposure than by predation, I mean crows kill lambs at times by going for their eyes, should we eradicate those too?

Aside from the need to return our ecosystem to the lush and varied one of years before, basic secondary school biology shows the population cycle of predator and prey, which goes up and down as the predator eats more prey, then declines as the food gets no scarce, then rises again as the prey increases with lack of predators. Nature is pretty good at self regulating, the only species incapable of this are us. This is why prey animals like the one you describe have many litters per annum in comparison to predators.

BertaHoon · 21/03/2023 03:01

HoppsAndSpice · 21/03/2023 00:02

The Strait of Dover is only 20km from the closest point from the UK to Belgium

Now I'm laughing.

I wouldn't travel too far east in Europe OP.

Whispers they have bears too. You know, real live ones.

FFS.

Wishawisha · 21/03/2023 03:03

How are wolves not native to Europe or the U.K.?

Absolutely love the idea of all these Wolves in Calais looking across to Dover and spotting land and deciding to swim for it!

Funkyblues101 · 21/03/2023 03:03

Pinkplasticbathcup · 21/03/2023 02:54

Haven’t RYFT but have a look at what happened when they reintroduced wolves to Yellowstone National Park. It did wonders for the ecosystem - rebalanced it. You need an apex predator for a functioning ecosystem. Also have a look at rewilding by George Monbiot.

Finally, someone with actual knowledge has mentioned Yellowstone. Whilst this thread has been a lot of fun, the sheer idiocy of the OP who claims to work in eco conservation has my mouth agape. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt and assuming she is a troll concocting all this as an unsophisticated, racist metaphorical diatribe - that someone working in conservation is actually that thick is terrifying.

MooseBeTimeForSnow · 21/03/2023 03:14

I’m close to the Wood Buffalo National Park in Alberta. We have BISON, wolves and beavers. In fact, we have the worlds largest beaver dam. But at only 800m long, I think OP is safe for a while.

Unless OP wants to come and look at the beaver dam. The only thing to eat you alive would be the mosquitos.

Mind you, it so remote that it’s entirely feasible that there’s still a couple of Albertosaurus kicking around.

Funkyblues101 · 21/03/2023 03:22

HoppsAndSpice · 21/03/2023 00:17

I don’t actually agree with any introduction of invasive species once they have been eradicated as once eradicated the species should take the loss and continue on as nature intended which animals like wolves should understand and the people who want to propagate them should be punished.

Brits eradicating wolves by hunting them with rifles is not what "nature intended"! Nowhere on the planet are wolves an "invasive species", they correct the balance of the ecosystem allowing native flora and fauna to thrive.
Invasive species: Grey squirrels, yes. Japanese knotweed, yes. Those little Chinese ladybirds, yes. Wolves? No.
GIVE ME STRENGTH.
Ffs.

Gremlinsateit · 21/03/2023 03:26

Wolves would be invasive in Aust, but the Tas devils would bite ‘em

Ladyofthesea · 21/03/2023 03:31

I live in Europe in a country with (just a few) native wolves. DH found footprints once on his daily walk but unfortunately we haven't seen one yet. They're beautiful creatures.

If the OP IS real then the op is very unwell.

TheBlessedCheesemaker · 21/03/2023 03:33

if this thread isn’t enough entertainment… try this oldie. Are the posters related? I think we should be told…

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3386868-AIBU-to-be-livid-how-dolphins-are-portrayed-compared-to-how-they-are

Offensiveapprently · 21/03/2023 03:33

This link is useful to explain the positive impact that wolves have on ecosystems which farming largely does not

BoreOfWhabylon · 21/03/2023 03:39

Itsneverwhatitseems · 21/03/2023 03:57

RNLD1981 · 21/03/2023 00:04

To be fair OP, 20km is quite a long swim for a wolf

🤣🤣
Actually
My Dh is a zoologist
Specialism Is African wild hunting dogs, but recently worked with / studied wolves

They have a type of webbed paw. They are excellent swimmers and have been monitored swimming up to 8 miles, so you never know

SonicStars · 21/03/2023 04:02

Could they swim all the way to the amazon though? That's what I'm really worried about. I mean they can't see Brazil from Belgium but what if someone left an atlas open?

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