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chemical pregnancy advice please

84 replies

Newmama93 · 20/03/2023 18:14

Hi everyone

i posted yesterday that my 12DPO test was lighter than my 11DPO test, today I did one FMU at 13DPO and this is it compared to my 10DPO one. Is this a definite chemical? Am I ruled out yet? It is a bit darker maybe but for 3 days not a lot and I’m having back ache. I’m so sad as this will be my second loss in a row. I’d expect a bigger change at this stage.

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Newmama93 · 21/03/2023 23:09

Thank you, that makes sense! He had no idea where I was with dates so probably just said it without thinking I’d panic due to MC only 6 weeks ago.

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Newmama93 · 22/03/2023 01:16

I stupidly just got another FRER and had some water so I could wee and checked it and it’s lighter than yesterday! Top is 13dpo and now bottom is 14dpo, I’m out guys. So down I got my hopes up.

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PinkButtercups · 22/03/2023 01:25

I wouldn't rule yourself completely out. Your urine could have been more diluted on the last test. I'd test with morning wee.

Good luck x

Newmama93 · 22/03/2023 01:30

Don’t know if I attached a photo.

thanks, I’ll test in the morning and if it’s no darker I’m pretty certain. I have read about 1000 threads now all with the outcome of a chemical with tests basically exactly like mine.

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BrokenButNotFinished · 22/03/2023 07:09

Onthenosecco · 21/03/2023 23:03

I was treated amazingly by the NHS through all of my pregnancies and I have absolutely no complaints.

First pregnancy, scanned at 6 weeks due to severe cramps, no heartbeat, offered counselling.

Second pregnancy, scanned at 6, 7 and 8 weeks, no heartbeat at 8 weeks, referred to recurrent miscarriage clinic. All tests normal. Offered counselling.

Third pregnancy, emergency scan at 5 weeks due to cramps, confirmed ectopic, referred straight to EPU. Had fantastic treatment there.

Fourth pregnancy, scanned 6,8,10,12,14 weeks at EPU, then at 20,24,28,32 weeks, and twice weekly until 40 weeks. Referred for free hypnobirthing and counselling with a recurrent miscarriage specialist midwife.

Fifth pregnancy, chemical pregnancy, bloods taken by EPU even though j didn’t meet the criteria.

Sixth pregnancy, ectopic discovered at 6 weeks. Referred back to recurrent miscarriage clinic. Tested positive for antiphospholipid syndrome. Referred to fertility clinic, had whole raft of tests done there too.

seventh pregnancy, scanned weekly through first tri and third tri.

I was absolutely supported through all my pregnancies. I’m sorry your situation wasn’t as good as mine but I don’t think you can generalise like you are here.

Antiphospholipid syndrome isn’t 15% of the 1%. It’s 15% of the 35% of the 1%.

1% of couples have recurrent miscarriage.
25% of the 1% have a known cause.
15% of the 25% of the 1% have antiphospholipid syndrome. It has an incidence rate of between 5 and 50 per 100,000 and is more common in the elderly than in those of reproductive age. You can also be positive for the antibodies for it for short periods of time, even if you do not have APS. It is a rare condition and OP has absolutely no reason to suspect this is the cause. It’s absolutely ridiculous, to be honest.

It’s akin to someone having the cold and it being suggested they have leukaemia.

Isn’t that nice for you. It certainly isn’t everyone’s experience and neither can you generalise. I’m in an RCOG lay advisory group and there is certainly a broad range of attitudes and treatments out there.

I’m not sure you are right on your stats, but no matter. I’m not engaging with you on this anymore. My point was simply that by accepting ‘chemical pregnancy’ as a thing, one may be doing a disservice to the women for whom a medical condition means they will struggle to progress unaided to a ‘clinical’ pregnancy, whether that is due to antiphospholipid or another cause.

HVPRN · 22/03/2023 07:49

@Newmama93 Hello again, I commented j your other thread. Please don't overthink this, although easy said than done. Take it one day at a time, one day of happiness that you are actually pregnant.

"Do not steal today, by worrying about tomorrow". What will be, will be.

Do you have any other symptoms at the moment barring cramps?

Eatentoomanyroses · 22/03/2023 08:11

These are still good lines. Frers never liked my wee and I never got strong lines with them even with my viable pregnancies. I would stake money this is not a chemical

Newmama93 · 22/03/2023 08:33

Thanks all.

my nipples are sensitive but that’s it, just on going cramps been for days now, I hope it’s an ok sign, I’m not tired. I am going to test using FMU but so so anxious about it as it’s my sons second birthday on Sunday and it’ll ruin the weekend for me.

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Newmama93 · 22/03/2023 18:35

I have my second bloods today and I’m so nervous, I used the FMU this morning and got a darker result I’ll add a pic, still worried on the lack of progression day by day prior to this and that yesterday was lighter but could be due to doing a midday test after a big drink. 11dpo also was the same as 10dpo which I threw away. I’m just so worried, back pain is bad and nipple sensitivity is only in one sign, it just doesn’t feel good. Low progressing lines are usually bad news and now pains and lack of symptoms.

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TheShellBeach · 22/03/2023 20:42

OP that's a really good line progression.
It looks perfect to me.
You're torturing yourself.
After you get your blood test results I hope you'll feel able to calm down.
I've seen hundreds of bad line progressions on here. Sometimes you can barely see the line on the test. Yours are all obvious and dark.

TheShellBeach · 22/03/2023 20:44

Back pain isn't bad, either. It's your ligaments stretching.

Newmama93 · 23/03/2023 00:56

TheShellBeach · 22/03/2023 20:44

Back pain isn't bad, either. It's your ligaments stretching.

Thank you! My anxiety was my blood reading as everyone says it should be higher as well as my doctor, the stomach pain, lack of other symptoms and the fluctuation of the lines. I threw out the 11,12,14dpo tests and have just compared the 10,13,15 ones and I’m happy with this for now. I’ll have an answer tomorrow morning. Thanks for your comments it’s helped me relax x

if my bloods are doubling I’ll definitely chill

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merrymelodies · 23/03/2023 02:39

What's a chemical pregnancy? I've never heard of such a thing.

Newmama93 · 23/03/2023 02:49

merrymelodies · 23/03/2023 02:39

What's a chemical pregnancy? I've never heard of such a thing.

Really? It’s when your tests don’t progress or change much and then eventually you test negative, so you have a pregnancy that was never able to be scanned etc and that’s what it’s called but it’s really a very very early miscarriage. Very common

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TheShellBeach · 23/03/2023 10:46

merrymelodies · 23/03/2023 02:39

What's a chemical pregnancy? I've never heard of such a thing.

A very early miscarriage where the only proof of the pregnancy was the presence of the HCG hormone in pregnancy tests. The pregnancy is not viable and scans do not detect it. The mother then bleeds between 4 - 5 weeks (so up to a week after the missed period).
As the quantity of HCG diminishes, the lines on the pregnancy tests get lighter and lighter. Usually, the line is imperceptible, at a time when it would be dark and obvious in a continuing pregnancy.

PinkButtercups · 24/03/2023 07:03

That's good progression.

Just to add I had no symptoms with DS or my twins. Lack of pregnancy symptoms aren't always a bad thing.

TheShellBeach · 24/03/2023 19:33

Hi OP.
Did you get your blood test results?

Newmama93 · 24/03/2023 20:33

TheShellBeach · 24/03/2023 19:33

Hi OP.
Did you get your blood test results?

Hi

I did, I was 80 first day and then 244 two days later. Hope this means not chemical? He wanted bloods again today so I’m here now and just so anxious I ts gone down.

thank you

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bahar93 · 24/03/2023 20:35

I think that's great line depression.

I tested positive on a digital 3 days ago.. but the same night brown discharge and pink swipe on the tissue.. mild cramping.

My lines got darker and still the digi says pregnant but tonight my line is definitely lighter so I think a chemical!

But with your lines I wouldn't be worried at all!

TheShellBeach · 24/03/2023 20:45

Newmama93 · 24/03/2023 20:33

Hi

I did, I was 80 first day and then 244 two days later. Hope this means not chemical? He wanted bloods again today so I’m here now and just so anxious I ts gone down.

thank you

That's brilliant!

bahar93 · 24/03/2023 20:48

Progression* not depression.

Newmama93 · 25/03/2023 11:20

Levels today were 640, I still want to do urine test and also they said my progesterone was good and won’t give me pesseriss but I really want them as I have a late ovulation and I had MC last time. I’m just so nervous.

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TheShellBeach · 25/03/2023 11:43

Newmama93 · 25/03/2023 11:20

Levels today were 640, I still want to do urine test and also they said my progesterone was good and won’t give me pesseriss but I really want them as I have a late ovulation and I had MC last time. I’m just so nervous.

Your levels are very good so you must do your best to calm down and try not to panic.
Progesterone pessaries are not needed in your case.
I'm so glad that your hCG levels are so good.
I do understand that you're panicking but everything is fine at the moment.
Maybe you'll feel better when you have your first scan. I hope so.
Congratulations by the way. This is definitely not a chemical pregnancy!

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 25/03/2023 11:54

for what it’s worth I don’t think your tests were getting lighter and your bloods are great. Totally get the anxiety but hopefully you can relax a bit. I think the cramps are normal

BertieBotts · 25/03/2023 15:05

HCG sounds really really good. This is all indicative of a healthy pregnancy.