To think it's mostly men who are scary drivers

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My husband is The Driver. Oh, I can drive, but he will take possession of the keys for any journey he is on. He thinks he's above reproach. A flawless, excellent, even exemplary driver.

He is not. He is a fucking scary driver. Chopping and changing lanes on the motorway to dodge around other cars as if it's some kind of racing game. Going right up their arses as if they can't slam their feet on the brakes. Not indicating and thinking that he's perfectly safe, and that nobody else on the road will be so prickish as to not signal their intent to other drivers. Speeding, looking at his phone, undertaking...

And he has the audacity to be annoyed at me when I can't take it anymore and tell him to slow the fuck down, stop driving like he's in an action movie and prioritise the lives of the people in the car!

My dad is also a fucking scary driver. My sisters husband. My brother in law. My cousin. My friend. All of the scary drivers I've ever been in a car with have been men. The driver who smashed into my stationary car in traffic was a speeding man looking at his phone.

AIBU to think that maybe most men are not frightening reckless drivers but most frightening reckless drivers are men.

My simple question, after reading just the OP, is why the fuck are you getting into a car with him?
If you let kids in the car and he's driving like that, you're responsible if there's a crash and they get hurt.

Stop being complicit. Refuse to get in the car with him and tell him exactly why. If he had a mantrum, tell him,
"tough titty big boy bollock brain."

Motorways are generally pretty safe, due probably to 99.9% of time everyone travelling in the same direction. As most car journeys are less than 2 miles it seems obvious that most accidents are going to be close to home in urban areas. The fatalities seem to be on rural A roads . I can think of several teenage boys and young men who have died over the years in these situations or caused the deaths of others.

Bad drivers and scary drivers rely on everyone else being good drivers.

Broadly, aggressive Iver confident drivers more likely to be men. But too cautious, bad drivers women. Ime.

Having said that - I thunk it's weord your dh, dad, bil, and basically every man you have ever been in a car with is aggressive. That seems unlikely to me, so I do have to wonder if you are a particularly nervous passenger and/or driver?

Yes, lots of boy racers around where I live driving like maniacs - not something that young women do.

The way men drive is very much underpinned by entitlement and overconfidence. So many men act like they own the road and are also beyond reproach.

Weird that you continue to be a passenger with him driving so badly.

I don't know about women v men tbh.

I think a more men are arrogant drivers but I see plenty women who don't have a clue and are far to hesitant which is just as dangerous.

That's not to say we don't have arrogant women or hesitant male drivers.

But, again, why do you still get in the car with him?

As a cyclist, men are definitely more aggressive, more inconsiderate, more likely to rev and beep, yell out the window and smoke weed whilst driving.

My part of the world is pretty scary driving wise. The other week, we were undertaken at speed but they drove too close nearly hitting us. Partner beeped and the person braked suddenly in front (this has happened to me before when another driver gets rage - it's unnerving).

The driver then started shouting at DH using his mirror and purposely pulled over so he could go behind us and lob things like coke bottles at our car. We had kids in the car.

When I was pregnant I refused to drive in Bradford, I would walk the kids to school on a longer route away from the main road we lived off.

I've seen woman pushing a pram being hit on a zebra crossing and the pram go up in the air but that was a woman who hit her (woman and child were ok). I've had people drive into me because, in their words, they were late. I see some very aggressive driving from white van men (yes I am yet to see a woman).

I've had car after car smashed into living here (never my fault) by both men and women.

You are completely correct and the statistics bear you out. It is interesting that so many people are rushing to say women drive just as badly - I wonder if it is because cautious driving us interpreted as hesitant/uncertain and therefore dangerous, whereas decisive (bordering on aggressive) driving is seen as confident, and taken at its own value?

Middle aged women are the worst. Hate to admit it but men have better reations and so many women can't see that.

Too many people in general though equate being able to drive at speed in poor weather conditions as being a good driver. Last snowy spell it was like a competition to see who could drive the fastest

From my experience aggressive drivers seem to be men. Just generally crap driving as in trying to join the motorway at 40 mph when the traffic is doing 70, or driving so slowly they create their own traffic jam tends to be older drivers. However, the general standard of driving is so poor I don't think you can single out any group.

Men are more aggressive and suffer from the must get in front thing, (I'm a cyclist and some will literally risk death to get in front of a female cyclist).

Both women and men use their phones while driving.

I report all of this to the police with cam footage. I see myself as doing a public service.

Middle aged women are statistically by far the safest drivers. Reaction times that might be relevant to playing a computer game have virtually no relevance to driving safely. I'm not sure there is much evidence women and men's reaction times are much different anyway?

My ex is a very aggressive and dangerous driver.

I wouldn't go anywhere with him if he was driving and it remains one of the things about being divorced that worried me that I had no way to stop him driving the kids around once we split.

Men are by far the worst for aggressive driving, especially when they drive a bigger car. I reserve a special disdain for those who seem to believe using the inside lane of a motorway will make their penis fall off.

But, based solely on my own experiences, women are the worst for inattentive driving- particularly when it comes to mobile phone use.

Most aggressive, impatient, speeding drivers are male in my experience. They’re the only kind of ‘bad’ drivers who would attract my attention enough for me to notice their sex.

I think the stats bear this out

bad men drivers are aggressive, dangerous and have fewer but bigger accidents

bad women drivers are poor at parking, car control and observation so have more, but smaller, accidents

cliches, but apparently true

Statistics show what you say is true OP.

I saw a real belter yesterday in a shopping centre car park. Driver was taking minute parking - not excessively long, but a bit of shuffling around so eventually two cars waiting in line. The first guy was shouting and ranting, like really losing his shit, sat in his car and shouting. When I looked closer he had a kid in the back. Seriously what kind of a way is that to behave, sat in your car with your kid swearing your head off in a leisure retail car park on a Saturday morning?

Years ago you used to get cheaper insurance as a woman because the statistics showed that women had fewer accidents and they were less serious per mile driven.
Insurance firms had to stop doing this for some stupid reason.

Women have more accidents, but they are generally cheaper in terms of repair bills and injury claims. Men have fewer accidents, but usually have more injury costs.

Stats show that men are more dangerous! www.rosenfeldinjurylawyers.com/news/do-men-or-women-get-in-more-car-accidents/#:~:text=Who%20Gets%20Into%20More%20Car,the%20National%20Highway%20Safety%20Administration.

Yanbu, the worst drivers i know are all men. That's not to say there arent some really shit female drivers but male drivers are more aggressive imo. Men tend to tail gate and do ridiculous manoeuvres at high speed. The worst and most dangerous incident i had on the motorway was an aggressive man.

Both men and women can be bad drivers. Some men do drive too fast and too aggressively. Some women drive too slowly, too timidly and too indecisively. Both are crap drivers.

Whenever I’m being tailgated, or see a car doing 100+ on a busy motorway in the wet, it’s inevitably by a man. Whenever I come up behind a driver who is doing 29mph on a NSL country road with a long queue of frustrated drivers stuck behind them, or sitting in the middle lane of the motorway at 50 mph causing absolute chaos, it’s invariably a woman.

YANBU. Yeah, insurers know this perfectly well, the law just made them ignore it when setting premiums.

About half an hour ago, two lads in an old car were driving towards us on the wrong side of the road, because they wanted to park on the right hand side of the road. It obviously wasn’t possible for them to wait u til the road was clear to make the manoeuvre.