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To think that it isn't just men who are capable of sexual abuse of children?

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dizietsma · 11/02/2008 20:06

There's a thread in the Relationships section about a woman who is concerned about letting her FIL near her baby 'cos he was convicted on child porn charges. Obviously some people get very incensed on this topic, but I'm getting a little bit tired of the sexism associated with paedo panic. One poster was talking about how she'd never leave her kids alone with a man in case he sexually abused them. Like ANY man. To me that is nothing but blatant sexism. Women abuse kids too!

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Tortington · 13/02/2008 00:14

statistically. men abuse much much more

capable. women are capable of it too

sensible. we can keep our children locked in a box. they wouldnt be abused sexually but they wouldnt have a good life either.

a word about threads.

there's a hide button.

much of the same comments were made on a thread i startd a couple of days ago

people woulod actually bother to come on and say "how boring"

but then post
and
post

madamez · 13/02/2008 00:20

Those of you who refuse to let any men other than their fathers near your children might think for a moment about what kind of message you are sending out to your sons. If little boys grow up in a climate which tells them that men are evil and dangerous and not to be trusted, how are they ever to develop good relationships with other people? How are they to keep a healthy sense of themselves as loved and lovable human beings when they are being given the impression that their inevitable destiny is to be percieved as an abuser? And bear in mind that if you treat someone as though they are bad, their behaviour may become bad because they take on board your negative perception of them.

KerryMum · 13/02/2008 00:23

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Tortington · 13/02/2008 00:45

i left my kids alone with ...gosh practically anyone who would take them.

wouldnt even occur to me not to leave them with my bils when they were babies.

i understand that given a certain history you think that this is the best form of parenting for your child and all i have to say is that i completely understand why you parent this way.

i think a bizarreness - for me- occures when we parent against statistics alone - becuase one can make these fit - most anything.

ratio of abusers male to female - more makes abuse

ratio of make abusers within uk population.

or even - within - your town - if you can get this figure...might give a different result - dunno but i am hesitating a guess that statistically one is less likley to be abused by a man overall - than to be abused by a man.

Tortington · 13/02/2008 00:46

make = males

sprogger · 13/02/2008 06:44

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Pan · 13/02/2008 08:16

I know this post will probably just be something ephemeral, before in about 2 hours someone says "but women abuse too you know!"...yes, they do.....but comaparatively v. rarely..

from the original thread about a convicted FIL:

By Pan on Sun 10-Feb-08 20:03:23
less than 1% of sex-based convictions, that is.

By Pan on Sun 10-Feb-08 20:02:20
quick word on female sexual offenders, as itwas raised.

year on year, these amount to less than 1% of convictions. AND, the majority of those are for offences against adults, v. mainly male adults.

also, those against children are for aiding and abetting a males abusive behaviour.

if I remember correctly, there are approx. 3 and a half thousand men in prisonat any one time for sex offences. There are usually about 50 such women.

These stats come from NOTA. NAtional Association for the Treament of Abusers, an organisation of which I am a member.

The OP used the ( gross to me) term "paedo panic. The choice of my dd's mum and I, isn't a "panic" or anything like it, and I also posted details of the engaging freindly supportive men in her life. But that sort of thing gets lost, it seems, when people want to get themselves all hot and bothered for their own reasons.

Pan · 13/02/2008 08:17

Sprogger - I love your stickability!

Bangandthedirtisgone · 13/02/2008 08:37

Haven't read the whole thing but just wanted to echo what was said about Rose West..

VeniVidiVickiQV · 13/02/2008 21:44

LOL!

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