UK would be a pushover if Putin invaded

[Snoopinator]

AIBU to think the UK population would be too busy fretting about rude receptionists, grousing about trans issues and spying on their possible benefit-fraudster neighbours to put up any meaningful resistance to a Russian invasion? It's hard to imagine people coming together in any significant degree.

A Grade misogyny from that poster, a truly exceptional example.

Why do people keep starting these extremely stupid threads about a Russian invasion?

Has everyone forgotten that we have nuclear weapons? Are in NATO? That Russia can't even conquer the country next door, let alone launch an amphibious invasion on the other side of Europe?

It's not 1939 anymore FFS. If you want to whine about this country just go ahead without the stupid scenarios.

What about single parent households?

@Prescottdanni123 have you read back through your post? Are you serious, do you know see the absolute hypocrisy of your post? Are you aware how many countries the UK colonised unlawfully? The UK was one of the most prolific invaders . You talk about stopping Hitler , what about all the other countries that couldn’t stop the uk and had to deal with the huge ramifications, many countries in Africa , India , Ireland , many other parts of Asia , area of Central America , balkins etc etc , the list goes on. My own country has had serious consequences of a UK invasion, unlawful just like the Russian invasion . Your country is no better , just now it isn’t the aggressor. My country like many others look at the pomp and ceremony of your war commemorations and celebration of your military as pure hypocrisy.

We would definitely pull together but I think it would be the working classes/under class who save us and volunteer Vs the middle class. I know how to shoot so I would probably be more worthwhile than many conscripted men who have never held a firearm. Warfare is more about the equipment, skill rather than brute strength nowadays.

Exactly. Just an excuse for people to whine and make misogynistic or racist comments.

Well as it’s not something I’ve given major thought too, it was more a comment on gender equality……
I guess you would have a rule that says if household has one stay at home parent then choose and adult out of remaining. Households with one single parent or disabilities/caring roles are except and I guess we would like have half the country staying they were exempt as they once picked up a newspaper for their neighbours aunt Doris once removed. But I didn’t realise this was a serious planning portal for post putin invasion policy. I need to work out my hourly rate if I’ve got to give formal plans to someone.
HTH

@SoShallINever

jesus. That's an image I didn't need!!

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@Snoopinator hmmm I'm on the fence, but as it's not something that will happen I'm not stressing about it.

the Ukrainians are bloody impressive though ❤️

Don't be soft, of course immigrants would fight. My dh wasn't born here but our home is here, our children were born here, they go to school here, his friends live here, this is his home too

Nah, I’ll be fine..

Our civil service will come to a mutual
agreement With the Russian Army to continue WFH.

Of course. We would be a pile of rubble after a few dozen nuclear warheads.

MN could be the catering Corp..feeds a platoon with a medium chicken for a week.

100% agree with this. Our wokeness must have the world's leaders - good and bad laughing out loud. Putin probably has a greater fear of the west than ever before listening to our politicians refusing to describe a woman.

This is bang on

Putin doesn't need to invade, he already wrecked the UK using Tories and Brexit.

Can only imagine how many crying and shaking threads and comments there would be on here.

If I were Putin, I'd set my sights on virtually anywhere in Europe before I bothered with the UK. What do we have that he could possibly want? Far more productive to meddle in our elections.

That said, I don't think he'd fancy taking on our armed forces in a land or sea war. Despite the sneer on threads like this, our forces are really very good at what they're very well trained to do.

'kept Adolf Hitler out' is a gross over-simplification that ignores the pertinent fact that Nazi Germany was never, at any point, anywhere remotely close to being able to launch a credible invasion of mainland UK.

The Channel saved the UK. Pure quirk of geography.

It's not going to happen, but

fretting about rude receptionists - orneriness
grousing about trans issues - refusal to buy into propaganda
and spying on their possible benefit-fraudster neighbours - integrity

seem like excellent traits in a population hypothetically under threat of invasion.

We probably do need to work on our resilience in the face of a salad shortage, though. That doesn't bode well for coping with wartime rationing.

This made me laugh so much 🤣

That's not entirely true though.

The British isles nave been invaded by boat, by the Vikings and by the Normans. The Channel, while an obstacle is not a complete deterrent.

Er, whatever you say....

Well the obvious example @Snoopinator is WW2. Then you have the Falklands conflict. The reason why these are so obvious is they match your precise example. If you then follow that through, the country would unite against an invading force. There would be a small minority who might not, numbering in the low millions, who might not identify as British, but that is what happens when you have an open democracy rather than a dictatorship. Seventy-five percent of the world's population live under dictatorships.

I think I have seen your posting style before. Did you have that post late last year suggesting how the housing market would keep going up and up, because "that's what the property market does....". If I am correct then your purpose here could well be to eke out some evidence from posters that there is in fact some form of national unity.

There is one crucial point to be made here. Putin would not invade because he and the Kremlin are a pushover. Ukraine is pushing Russia over. The social and political system in Russia is riddled with corruption and has created those conditions. Russia sits on the most vast natural resources in the world. Rather than share those resources out like many countries would, Putin has created a hierarchy where wealth is concentrated in a few people who have the soft power skills to unite their communities behind him. More of Russia's productivity has been spirited away into foreign bank accounts, London apartments and Mediterranean villas than has been paid in local taxes let alone reinvestment back into the economy. More Roubles were converted into luxury yachts over 25 years than was invested into the Russia's Navy's Northern Fleet. All this happened while on Putin's watch.

There is a lesson here for the UK and other European nations when it comes to defence spending. We are going to have to raise the game. We are going to have to spend more on defence: on traditional defence, cyber-security and anti-terrorism activities. On the defence side, it is only the US which is not a pushover. Another democracy.