someone tell me what crime has been committed?

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Baffled by this story

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11810311/Woman-49-convicted-manslaughter-raising-hand-elderly-cyclist-collision.html

on what grounds are the prosecuting the pedestrian? It seems an absolute stretch to think that her gesticulating and “radiant her hand” at a cyclist for driving towards her on a pavement is wilful manslaughter? I can see how it’s a tragic, very unfortunate accident but how did this make it to court?

The atmosphere is this country is so toxic to middle aged women at the moment- what is going on?!

Judge Sean Enright, sentencing Grey to three years in prison, said “these actions are not explained by disability”.

He said that Grey, of Huntingdon, had no mental disorder or learning difficulties and he said the pavement was 2.4 metres wide at the relevant point, describing it as a “shared path on the ring road”.

This was the judges remarks - I guess they didn't know as much as those on this thread

The outcome of the incident is of course tragic, but I’m struggling to see how the partially sighted pedestrian with cerebral palsy is more at fault here than the woman cycling on the pavement?

Regardless of whether the cyclist should have been on the pavement or not, no one has the right to push anyone into moving traffic.

Why on earth would she not be at fault? She had other, more rational options, like moving out of the way. Just because she feels she shouldn’t have to move out of the way, doesn’t mean she can act with impunity.

The comments on this thread are shocking.

This woman screamed abuse at an elderly lady on a bicycle, pushed her into traffic and left her on the road to die after she was struck by a car. She then continued about her day and went shopping. That is not acting from a place of vulnerability, that’s rank entitlement.

If the pedestrian was 32 year Steven, no one would be defending him.

even if, as in this case, they’re on a shared pedestrian/cycle path?

Tbf no but I've growled at a few who seem to think a shared path means they have priority over me.

I would have done exactly the same by telling cyclist to get off pavement. Sadly it seems everyone is looking for someone to blame.

I once asked someone to pick up their litter on the pavement. If it had blown in the road and they attempted to pick it up and got run down by a car - AM I Responsible?

Personally pedestrian needs to appeal. What the hell is this world coming to?

The pedestrian was possibly in shock, and not mentally competent to hang around after a serious RTA.

So you know it can easily result in a death but you'd still do it?

Disabled people should be able to walk down a footpath without fear of cyclists mowing them down.

Regardless of whether you should be able to walk down a footpath without fear of a cyclist mowing you down, you have no right to push that cyclist into moving traffic, and you will be punished for it.

And I hardly think a 77 year old cyclist was “mowing” anyone down…

It does not “easily” result in a death.
It was an accident.

The pedestrian was partly sighted and probably very scared with a cyclist coming towards her. According to the council, they couldn't confirm it was a 'shared use' path.

But whether she admitted it or not, the video shows that she didn’t.

Mumsnetter police investigating another crime. They have so little to do - too much time on their hands.
Keyboard warriors.
Sad

Having watched the video I feel the pedestrian is not actually at fault and this was a tragic accident caused by shared spaces . Dh is sight impaired he has been knocked down twice on pavements by cyclists and.felled one. All quite obviously missed his white cane , in fact all yelled at him and said are u blind. The response of yes got further abuse in 2 cases. They all failed to spot his guide cane being use in a similar.way to this woman's hand but lower, how he was trained by the RNIB. It would have felled her in the same way. What would the response have been to that?

The Highway Code states this more emphatically, stating in Rule 64 that “You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement”. It also advises that cyclists “take care when passing pedestrians, especially children, older or disabled people, and allow them plenty of room”.

It was a tragic accident!!

The cyclist failed to cycle with due care and attention. It was an accident. She didn't check the traffic before moving into it.

Have you seen the CCTV? She was pushed into it. The pedestrian admitted making contact, the contact caused the car accident.

Fascinating that you know more about it than the judge and jury.

The videos shows that she did. Watch it again, the slow motion one. You clearly see in the last few frames the moment she pushes her and the cyclist falls off her bike as a result.

Absolutely! Always thought this.

🤯🤯

Hear hear!
Bizarre and very troubling - both decisions.

Crikey

Fully agree with this poster. Having just watched news on catch up, I asked husband "why has the woman been prosecuted? on what grounds" Husband says " she made her cycle into traffic" she didn't she was being horribly aggressive and nasty.
Taught both my children, if you're cycling on a pavement near elderly, family, get off your bike and walk past, before riding again.
Devastating terrible news for the cyclist family.

The pedestrian is partially out of view in this video, but to me, it does look like she pushed the cyclist at around 15 seconds, causing her to fall into the road.

www.itv.com/news/anglia/2023-03-02/angry-pedestrian-who-killed-pavement-cyclist-77-is-jailed

Whether or not she should have been on the pavement, the pedestrian had no right to verbally abuse or touch the cyclist in any way, shape or form. Having done so, I think manslaughter is about right.

@ReneBumsWombats - are you saying you should never remonstrate with a cyclist? I have, plenty of times, because I don’t relish the prospect of being bashed into at speed when I’m walking along the pavement.

The victim was a 77-year-old lady; I wonder what the consensus would be if it had been a 25-year-old man?

Agree with this. I'm completely baffled how the pedestrian was found guilty and given a jail sentence. Sex offenders don't get such harsh treatment. It's outrageous.

He should have got years more, doesn’t mean she should have got less.