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To ask how many NI years of contribution you’ve missed?

332 replies

HedgeRin · 01/03/2023 19:34

Conversation here between women- our theory is most women have missed a lot for various reasons. We don’t know anyone who actually made the full amount.

Im the lowest missed. So far three (all years of mixed studying and work, end of school, end of degree, end of masters). Overall I’ll go on to miss more in the future after the children turn 16 I reckon.

Friend one has 6 years earning under the limit.

My mum has missed 7 for various reasons

Friend two, self employed doesn’t want to check, but reckons it isn’t positive

OP posts:
DoesItHaveKosovo · 02/03/2023 20:17

2 years when I was a student. One year I didn’t work at all and the other year I was temping over the summer. I’m 36 though, so have many years of contributions to go

SugarLatte · 02/03/2023 20:23

I’m 42, I have 26 years of full contributions, 26 years left to contribute and says I need another 7 years. My youngest is 6 so 5 of those I’ll get child benefit credits so 2years after that and I’ll have done that.

Lougle · 02/03/2023 20:34

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 01/03/2023 21:13

I am short 5 years, just about to buy one of those years, I’m 53

i wont get the full pension (should i live long enough or it still exists) due to this opting out of serps business

annoyingly, i only have a personal pension pot of 12k so its a bit irritating that i won’t get the full pension but never mind, it is what it is

You shouldn't need to buy anything. You have 14 years left until SPA and you only need 5 years.

Daechwita · 02/03/2023 20:39

I have 20 years, 9 years missed, and a further 23 years to make up the remaining 15 years of contributions.

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 02/03/2023 20:42

Lougle · 02/03/2023 20:34

You shouldn't need to buy anything. You have 14 years left until SPA and you only need 5 years.

I work part time and don’t pay NI

BrigitteBond · 02/03/2023 20:46

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 02/03/2023 20:42

I work part time and don’t pay NI

You get an NI credit if you earn over £123 per week.

Crazymadchickenlady · 02/03/2023 20:48

3 years while I was at Uni and 20 years while I was abroad 😳. Paid back a few years as far as I can but will never get to the full state pension.

Snoreboar · 02/03/2023 20:50

I think the problem is you get nothing for part payment - no credits towards a year when you didn’t pay for the entire year. It’s a very unfair tax.
I have missed 9 years. But they are all part payments.

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 02/03/2023 20:53

BrigitteBond · 02/03/2023 20:46

You get an NI credit if you earn over £123 per week.

yes i know that thank you 🙂

Noodlehen · 02/03/2023 21:13

I have a question, if anyone knows the answer. I have just checked mine and I have a partial year for 19/20 and full contributions for 20/21 and 21/22. However I left the UK in 2017, was in Ireland until 2019 when I went to australia. I went back to Ireland in 2021.

I did hear that someone in my (estranged) family had claimed JSA in my name during covid and reported this to the benefit office as fraud in 2020. Would these contributions come from a JSA claim? Which would suggest that they never actually closed it down after I reported it.

I think I’ve just opened up a can of worms for myself; that’s me not sleeping tonight

ScoobyBooby · 02/03/2023 21:26

Labtastic · 01/03/2023 19:56

Bugger. I have nine incomplete years and only two I can make up the shortfall on as the others have timed out. Can't decide if by 2049, when I'm eligible, we'll even have a functioning state pension (or state!)

I’ve also got 9 missing . I need to switch the child benefit back to my name . Been a SAHM .

I have until 2055 to contribute 24 years worth of NI to get the full pension .

ScoobyBooby · 02/03/2023 21:27

Bigminnie1 · 02/03/2023 13:17

I have logged in and it tells me how much I will get when I am 67 but it doesn't mention anything about years missed. How do I see that? I only worked on my final year at uni and had a yea rand a half abroad after uni.

Click on view your national insurance record a bit further down

Bigminnie1 · 02/03/2023 21:28

Thanks @ScoobyBooby

Bigminnie1 · 02/03/2023 21:32

Found it now. Five years not paid. Makes sense. I had a year out before and after uni and three years at uni. But I have 30 years of full contributions and another 16 to get before retirement.

RagzRebooted · 02/03/2023 21:33

2 years. One partial and one full. I was working part time, then unemployed, then pregnant and had DS1. You don't get HRP for partial years so as I only got child benefit for half the year I got nothing that year as I wasn't working while pregnant.
I have 19 years full contributions and another 31 to go so no need to top it up.

Coxspurplepippin · 02/03/2023 21:49

I have 24 years and 10 years to go until retirement but my pension forecast suggests the most I'd get (using today's figures) would be £179 per week, when a full state pension is about £210 per week. I need to find out why but have spent 3 X 1 hours waiting on the phone before the call hangs up. Pigging annoying.

But what's even more annoying is I also have 15 years full time work history in Australia for which there are no reciprocal contributions, and I can't claim a sous from Australia.

DH is in an even worse position than me with 20 years contributions, 3 years until retirement and 23 years work in Australia for which he's entitled to nothing.

RomeoOscarXrayIndigoEcho · 02/03/2023 21:53

4 years. While I was at Uni. Too long ago to pay for now annoyingly

I have over 20 years to keep earning qualifying years.

I think I'm 13 years short

GobiMancCauli · 02/03/2023 21:56

I'm 47 and have worked since I was 16. 31 years, no gaps in my record (despite 3 kids/2 mat leave periods)

TrudyProud · 02/03/2023 22:03

Zero.

I'm 37 and worked PT through A-levels and university. Have been in FT employment since university and was paid my full salary during my maternity leave.

BrigitteBond · 02/03/2023 22:08

Coxspurplepippin · 02/03/2023 21:49

I have 24 years and 10 years to go until retirement but my pension forecast suggests the most I'd get (using today's figures) would be £179 per week, when a full state pension is about £210 per week. I need to find out why but have spent 3 X 1 hours waiting on the phone before the call hangs up. Pigging annoying.

But what's even more annoying is I also have 15 years full time work history in Australia for which there are no reciprocal contributions, and I can't claim a sous from Australia.

DH is in an even worse position than me with 20 years contributions, 3 years until retirement and 23 years work in Australia for which he's entitled to nothing.

24 years and 10 to go is 34 years, so one year short.

Current full pension is £185.10 pw for 35 years contributions and you lose 1/35th of that (£5.29) for every year short of 35 years - so that's your £179.86 figure.

BrigitteBond · 02/03/2023 22:11

And the £203.85 pw doesn't start until April, so that's why it's basing your figure on £185.10.

JoeMaplin · 02/03/2023 22:15

I’m 47, I have no missed years. Any years where I earned under the limit, I’ve had child benefit and also self employment contributions as I’m a partner in my husbands business. I studied both my degree part time whilst working and have 4 kids though.

Coxspurplepippin · 02/03/2023 22:17

BrigitteBond · 02/03/2023 22:08

24 years and 10 to go is 34 years, so one year short.

Current full pension is £185.10 pw for 35 years contributions and you lose 1/35th of that (£5.29) for every year short of 35 years - so that's your £179.86 figure.

Brilliant - thank you. That's saved me another wasted day trying to get through on the phone Grin

Cheerfulcharlie · 02/03/2023 22:21

rebekahnorris · 02/03/2023 20:13

I thought you only need to do 35 years ? Is that right?

I think it depends on your age. I'm not sure of the exact bandings but my record said I need a total of 40 years. It might be if you are under 45 now.

moveoverye · 02/03/2023 22:25

I’m 37 and missed 10 years.
6 years until I got first job aged 22
Then another 4 when I later did a Masters and phd.