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To ask how many NI years of contribution you’ve missed?

332 replies

HedgeRin · 01/03/2023 19:34

Conversation here between women- our theory is most women have missed a lot for various reasons. We don’t know anyone who actually made the full amount.

Im the lowest missed. So far three (all years of mixed studying and work, end of school, end of degree, end of masters). Overall I’ll go on to miss more in the future after the children turn 16 I reckon.

Friend one has 6 years earning under the limit.

My mum has missed 7 for various reasons

Friend two, self employed doesn’t want to check, but reckons it isn’t positive

OP posts:
VapeVamp12 · 02/03/2023 13:10

No gaps on mine which i weird because I was on stat maternity pay for 6 months a couple of years ago...

zoinkss · 02/03/2023 13:12

Halfcenturytoday · 02/03/2023 13:08

@zoinkss I'm the same. It's telling me I only need another four years' contributions to get the maximum pension but that only takes me to thirty years. I'm confused.

@Halfcenturytoday are we the chosen ones?! 🤣

WhateverHappenedToMe · 02/03/2023 13:14

No years missed. 45 years and counting paid.

Bigminnie1 · 02/03/2023 13:17

I have logged in and it tells me how much I will get when I am 67 but it doesn't mention anything about years missed. How do I see that? I only worked on my final year at uni and had a yea rand a half abroad after uni.

wordler · 02/03/2023 13:23

You can also pay to top up for future years if you stop working. For example I now live abroad and it is unlikely I will work in the UK again. But I’m going to pay the 800 pounds a year every year for the next 16 years to make up my full pension.

EyesOpenspider · 02/03/2023 13:33

www.gov.uk/check-national-insurance-record

EyesOpenspider · 02/03/2023 13:34

www.gov.uk/check-state-pension

AliasGrape · 02/03/2023 13:38

BrigitteBond · 02/03/2023 13:10

I don't know if it applies to you but the credits while in education stopped in 2010 apparently.

No this was way before that. I think I’ll phone them back at some point - just need to psych myself up to it 😂

Hazelnut5 · 02/03/2023 13:39

@Schnooze @CharBart

The COPE amount isn’t deducted from the state pension figure. It’s a pretty useless number that just tries to explain where some of your private pension comes from. You don’t have to deduct it from anything or add it to anything.

See a more detailed explanation here: www.theprivateoffice.com/pensions/state-pensions

‘To clarify, your COPE is not deducted from the State Pension figure shown in your personal State Pension forecast.

It is simply provided as an indication of the additional retirement income you may receive in retirement from your Contracted Out plan.’

Spacemountain · 02/03/2023 13:41

None missing after logging in which I am pleasantly surprised by as I immigrated here almost 20 years ago so didn't do a full year my first year and have had 2 children and mat leaves.

NotAnotherBathBomb · 02/03/2023 13:44

Not sure how reliable gov.uk is? I moved here on 2008 so the previous years say 'year is not full' but then somehow 2001-2003 show 'full year'? How?

bananaboats · 02/03/2023 13:48

2 missed years while at uni.

familyissues12345 · 02/03/2023 13:57

2 I believe, I need to check!

Worked since leaving school, except to be a SAHM for many years. Wasn't back to work until DS2 was 12, and even then didn't and still don't work enough to pay a contribution, so believe that means I'm currently 2 years short.

RainbowBrightside · 02/03/2023 14:09

None. I worked since I was 18 but even when I went to uni at 25 I was claiming child benefit so you get NI contributions for that time (3 years) In total, I’ve got 22 years.

Iris1976 · 02/03/2023 14:12

I have 21 years,missed 4,have 21 years left to contribute.

Oakbeam · 02/03/2023 14:18

I think the government gateway information is not as clear as it could be. When I go in I see the £185 a week very clearly with 8 year’s contributions to make which is fine.

I’m not sure if people are seeing different things depending on their circumstances, but it seems very clear to me. In big letters it tells me the most I can get… £185. Then, in slightly smaller letters, how much I will get based on my current contributions… £175. Under that it tells me that I need to contribute another two years before my retirement date to get it back up to £185.

CharBart · 02/03/2023 14:35

@Hazelnut5 thank you! That was the part that was confusing me.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 02/03/2023 14:37

None. Worked every year since 17.

Meceme · 02/03/2023 14:42

I have 4 missing years from uni in the 1980s. I also had 2 incomplete years from recent part time working (due to ill health). It cost me £12.47 and £6 to make these full years. I have 36 full years but still need to pay an additional 2 years to mitigate a period of time when my occupational pension was contacted out. Each additional year make £5 per week difference to my state pension. In two years ( including this year) I will have the full £185 per week when I retire in another 10 years!

WingingIt101 · 02/03/2023 15:33

Thank you @BrigitteBond

AmandaHoldensLips · 02/03/2023 15:49

Very interesting. I have missing years for dates I was in full-time employment which says to me that my employer at that time wasn't paying my NI or tax. They're long gone now but still. What a crook.

BrigitteBond · 02/03/2023 15:53

AmandaHoldensLips · 02/03/2023 15:49

Very interesting. I have missing years for dates I was in full-time employment which says to me that my employer at that time wasn't paying my NI or tax. They're long gone now but still. What a crook.

They may just have used an incorrect NI number for you.

feeona123 · 02/03/2023 16:09

AnotherEmma · 02/03/2023 08:16

You have to earn £123/week to get NI credits, but you don't start actually paying NI until you earn £242/week or more.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/rates-and-allowances-national-insurance-contributions/rates-and-allowances-national-insurance-contributions

Thanks for this @AnotherEmma. I couldn’t find the info!

feeona123 · 02/03/2023 16:14

VapeVamp12 · 02/03/2023 13:10

No gaps on mine which i weird because I was on stat maternity pay for 6 months a couple of years ago...

You get credits with children 12 years even if you don’t work.

rebekahnorris · 02/03/2023 20:13

Iris1976 · 02/03/2023 14:12

I have 21 years,missed 4,have 21 years left to contribute.

I thought you only need to do 35 years ? Is that right?