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To ask if you have a wage/income that would shock people?

796 replies

Newmumatlast · 27/02/2023 20:40

Inspired by the tipping hairdresser thread, and a post on there about people having no idea what some people earn with an anecdote about a London cabbie earning twice what his nurse wife did.

I just wondered if anyone does a job where people would actually be shocked to know their true earnings based on stereotype- either way. For example cleaner earning loads or lawyer earning very little.

OP posts:
Misty84 · 28/02/2023 20:18

I’m self employed and earn £60k working 3 days a week. Others doing the same job employed by a school are earning less than half of that working full time…I work alongside them and they’d have a heart attack if they knew…

ImAGoodPerson · 28/02/2023 20:19

1000N · 28/02/2023 20:04

Its true. Im on 30h/week on 42k.
i have friends band2 ( at the top if their band) that take home more than me at the end of the months after all the deductions ( PAYE, NI, Pension 9.8%) because its all deducted by percentage- the more you earn the more you pay. And agenda for change is extra 30% per night shift or Saturday and extra 60% per Sunday or bank holiday.

I'm an accountant for the NHS, this is definitely true. Some B2s do a huge amount of overtime/enhanced shifts.

Boxe · 28/02/2023 20:21

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 28/02/2023 15:04

Intrigued!

Which sector?

One in financial services, the other in a niche business role in a niche industry where people generally wouldn’t be able to guess the salary based on the title.

We tell nobody about our finances. Our families know where we work and what we do but wouldn’t understand the market for those skills. My mum once told me it’s nice I’m able to work and have some pocket money for clothes for myself- I earn over £140k.

If acquaintances ask, we say we work in an office or in a bank and don’t go into details. We have a lovely house and nice cars so have had some comments over the years but just never get into it with people. I’d imagine they think we’re up to our necks in debt but the mortgage on our house is relatively low thanks to a substantial deposit, and the cars were bought new and outright. We don’t have any debt bar our mortgage.

Apart from the cars, we’re not flash and don’t really put a lot of info out there- no holiday pics on social media etc.

Beignet · 28/02/2023 20:23

scoobycute · 27/02/2023 22:02

PARDON?! I presume you're a band 6 or 7?! Do you work for the NHS? Do you work a lot of overtime/nights?

As a fellow nurse..I'm baffled

This is an 8a role wage.

TwoBoysTooMany76 · 28/02/2023 20:25

I work for the HQ of a chain of QSR (quick service restaurants) in a senior marketing role and earn over £60K plus a very healthy bonus (25%) if we got certain targets, so taking me close to £80K. Most people think I work in the actual restaurant flipping burgers earning minimum wage. 😂🍔I don’t tend to correct them.

My teen sons’ friends think it’s amazing he gets this particular chain of fast food seemingly on tap. They think it’s free but it’s not, I have a staff discount.

My ex… on the other hand… works for a big tech company (nobody knows what he really does!) and his manager earned £25m last year. My ex earns enough to be talking about buying a ski chalet…

Logicoutofthewindow · 28/02/2023 20:26

"Orangeis · Yesterday 21:33
I'm a nurse earning 50k and living somewhere very cheap, so I live well. I'm always a bit bewildered when people give off pitying vibes that I must be on the breadline."

Due to the current stories on the news channels, quite a lot of people assume that all nurses earn low salaries and many use foodbanks. That myth was perpetuated by unions etc to get people to support strikes. I have several friends who earn very respectable salaries in nurse manager roles.

ladymaiasura · 28/02/2023 20:29

ImAGoodPerson · 28/02/2023 20:19

I'm an accountant for the NHS, this is definitely true. Some B2s do a huge amount of overtime/enhanced shifts.

So a bit more than just the odd night or weekend shift then?!

Icandefinitelydothis · 28/02/2023 20:29

McHelenz · 27/02/2023 22:12

Just had a look at the agenda for change pay scales and to earn 50k you need to be a band 8a. So to say you're not experienced is a downright lie when you're either exaggerating your wage or you're a modern matron.

I'm a band 7 and earn just over 40.

It;s interesting you’d jump straight to an accustom about lying when all you’ve done is google the NHS pay scale. What about the private sector? I can think of plenty of private sector nursing roles, not particularly senior, that would earn in excess of £50k.

thelinkisdead · 28/02/2023 20:29

Brrrrrrrrrrrr · 27/02/2023 23:05

Reading some of the replies and I’m wondering Is it now a badge of honour to behave and look as though you’re penniless when in reality you’re earning a very good wage? I don’t understand receiving a big salary to then live a life that doesn’t make use of it. Surely you’d eat well, wear decent clothes and live in a nice home if you could afford it? As they say…you can’t take it with you.

We are relatively young and haven’t been earning this much for long, so we’re careful not to live to our means so to speak. Our house is nice and, although we will upsize, big enough for our family currently. We have both decided that we should live beneath our means and save/invest etc. We want our children to have the option of Uni without lots of debt, and to help them get on the property ladder, and we want to retire at just over 60, so it makes sense to us.

We do eat well - but mostly cooking at home and the odd meal out; we have a few holidays planned and we like nice clothes - just not obviously designer things. I have some lovely jewellery and our kids enjoy sport. You just wouldn’t necessarily know all that unless you knew us well.

Whattodo46 · 28/02/2023 20:32

I’m not sure if Scotland is different, but I’m a band 7 (pharmacist, not nurse) and I am at the upper end of the band and full time would earn just over 50k. This is based on 37.5 hrs. If I worked in community pharmacy I’d expect to earn somewhere between 60-80k but would have more unsociable working hours and less benefits than are provided working for the nhs.

Icandefinitelydothis · 28/02/2023 20:33

Beignet · 28/02/2023 20:23

This is an 8a role wage.

Or private sector?

teaandcoffee23 · 28/02/2023 20:33

CuteAsDuck · 28/02/2023 19:33

I'm a paediatric speech and language therapist in a specialist area and take home less than £20k a year. F/t hours but 10 months out of 12 so wage is pro rata.

Top of my band, poor career progression in my area. I consider myself highly skilled in my specialism but there's limited potential for growth so considering leaving the job as it's nowhere near worth the money.

@CuteAsDuck surely you could make a fortune if you went private.

We have to pay for salt for my son, £75/hour and she's very booked up, demand outstripping supply by far.

poppettypop · 28/02/2023 20:35

ladymaiasura · 28/02/2023 20:29

So a bit more than just the odd night or weekend shift then?!

I am a band 3 and earned 42k last year. Permanent night, copious amounts of OT and worked through most of my Annual Leave. It can be done with OT and NHSP shifts.

You have to be prepared to work on different wards/sites and put the hours in.

ImAGoodPerson · 28/02/2023 20:36

ladymaiasura · 28/02/2023 20:29

So a bit more than just the odd night or weekend shift then?!

Yes definitely, would be when there are regular additional hours or enhancements. Some workers only work nights which increases their salaries. I was just responding to 100N. I have read back the thread, no way would they earn more doing the odd extra weekend shift.

Biilie82 · 28/02/2023 20:39

Mummyofmaniacs · 28/02/2023 19:22

Neither a boaster nor a whiner be.
Yes I will get flamed for this 🙄but it is tasteless to brag about money, ( usually an indication that you have a need to emphasise to others that you are better than you feel you appear ) as equally to whinge about having peanuts ( asking for a handout?)
Just dont, dont discuss your earnings - it is TACKY
unless you are on a golf course, touting for business....

Agree, all the posts about ‘oh we get ignored in show rooms but we are rich’ and ‘we are scruffy but earn more than anyone in the world’ make my cringe

ILoveEYFS · 28/02/2023 20:39

As a nursery nurse, people assume that my wages are linked to their fees. In reality we get pence above minimum wage.

cruisingwater · 28/02/2023 20:40

I earn c. £160k
All our friends think my husband is the breadwinner /career one. He works in the services so they could just google his salary.

If people find out I earn more they are astonished and seem to quickly forget/ignore.

We spend money on things that are good value. We do have lovely holidays and cars etc. A nice house. We don’t eat out much or get takeaways etc even though could afford it. I don’t have much designer stuff. If it is designer it’s not showy. We still do nice things just try and not be frivolous. Kids have what they want but we teach them the value of hard work & money/taxes etc.

I can work from home and so am often just in my active wear. I can look glam etc and people know I have a “proper” job (their words!) but really little clue how much I actually earn. I honestly think some of my friends think I earn about 70k.

My only expense other than clothes (which TBH I do regularly buy) is getting my hair done once every 4months.

I work in IT for an online retailer.

rainbow · 28/02/2023 20:44

DS1 earns more as a supermarket delivery manager than DN1 who working as an assistant SENDCo. DN has a degree, DS doesn't 🤷‍♀️

Notwavingbutsignalling · 28/02/2023 20:46

@cruisingwater

any tips for getting in to that field?🙂

spacewitch99 · 28/02/2023 20:47

I have told close friends who live in the South that our joint income is £120k and have been met with very sympathetic looks…our income more than meets our needs.

Biilie82 · 28/02/2023 20:48

Ags888 · 28/02/2023 17:21

Not really shocking but I'm happy to see the amount of people working hard and not spending it all for appearance sake, so I decided to chime in.

My Fiance is software developer and I am digital artist. We are both stingy and live way below our means, which is probably why people don't assume we are well-off (my Mum straight up asked if we have no money when I told her that I am making a rug by myself for nursery) I assume most friends/family think I'm not making much and Fiance is the sole/main breadwinner, but I have full time job in my field and do freelance work on top of it which usually lands me just few thousands less than him pa. I do think that in 5-10 years my earning prospects will be much lower due to AI taking over, but that's why I'm on a grind now saving and investing so we can live stress free and comfotrably for as long as possible.

I don't know if this is elitist thinking on my part, but sometimes it's baffling seeing people on lower wages spend money on things we consider too expensive for us, wondering if we are the crazy ones, so good to see frugal people here.

Why is what others spend their money on your concern? And why do you make a judgement on what they are buying based on the fact you believe you earn more so therefore believe they shouldn’t be buying expensive things? What an odd mentality

ladymaiasura · 28/02/2023 20:50

poppettypop · 28/02/2023 20:35

I am a band 3 and earned 42k last year. Permanent night, copious amounts of OT and worked through most of my Annual Leave. It can be done with OT and NHSP shifts.

You have to be prepared to work on different wards/sites and put the hours in.

I’m aware that it can be done. But not just with “the odd night or weekend shift” as @1000N claimed. I think you’ll agree you did a lot more than that to get your £42k!

LookingOldTheseDays · 28/02/2023 20:57

Biilie82 · 28/02/2023 20:48

Why is what others spend their money on your concern? And why do you make a judgement on what they are buying based on the fact you believe you earn more so therefore believe they shouldn’t be buying expensive things? What an odd mentality

I agree. Why is choosing to spend your money in order to maximise your enjoyment of life seen as a moral defect?

You can't take it with you, and many people don't live long enough to enjoy the hoards they squirreled away. I'd far rather see someone enjoying life and benefiting from the money they earn.

treesurgeonsarefemaletoo · 28/02/2023 20:58

What I find baffling and granted it’s mostly bored ‘troll hunters’ who make the claim but apparently you can’t earn a good salary and post on mumsnet a lot. It’s not true, I worked my hardest as a junior and now I can work far less and earn more in my established career.

It’s dumbing women down to laugh at high salaries on here. I know there are fantasists but frankly you also have the crew who struggle to believe that any poster on here earns above 50k.

The ancient Volvo and moth eaten cashmere lot can a get in the bin though. It’s not a Jilly Cooper novel and no one believes that nonsense.

jo19 · 28/02/2023 21:05

My cleaner is off to Jamaica for 2 weeks at the end of March. She went on a Caribbean cruise in December.