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Unreasonable old friend ignoring eviction-SS won't bring her here will they?

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canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:09

An old friend who has become more and more unreasonable and paranoid in recent years is going to be evicted and I am really afraid she will be brought to me. I can't take her in. What happens if social services bring her to my doorstep?

She is adamant that court orders and repossession notices etc mean nothing, and it is all just a scam

I have helped her a lot in the past, but am in poor health now, and can do absolutely no more, but there isn't really anyone else either, as she turns down all other help from social services, etc

What happens on the day she is evicted if she gives my name and address? I would have to literally shut the door in her face, wouldn't I?

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JuneOsborne · 26/02/2023 16:13

I have no idea, but the idea that SS would drive her to your house and insist that she comes in is so ridiculous and unlikely. I think you're panicking about nothing. Bit hopefully someone in the know will be along soon to reassure you.

Thesearmsofmine · 26/02/2023 16:14

No, maybe they might contact you if she gives them your details but they can’t force her on you. It sounds like she needs professional help.

canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:17

JuneOsborne · 26/02/2023 16:13

I have no idea, but the idea that SS would drive her to your house and insist that she comes in is so ridiculous and unlikely. I think you're panicking about nothing. Bit hopefully someone in the know will be along soon to reassure you.

o thank you - yes, I am sure you are right they can't force me to let her in. But even the idea of them turning up here with her and having some sort of confrontation on the doorstep is quite distressing...even if I persuade them to turn around

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AllWorkYoPlait · 26/02/2023 16:17

No one's gonna bring her to your door. She might turn up on your doorstep herself, of course.

Is she a council tenant or private?

canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:17

What happens when someone uncooperative is evicted? I've seen plenty of evictions, with friends who accept what is happening and cooperate, and take advice from bailiffs,
What happens if she point blank refuses to leave?

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Theunamedcat · 26/02/2023 16:17

She gets removed

canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:18

Thesearmsofmine · 26/02/2023 16:14

No, maybe they might contact you if she gives them your details but they can’t force her on you. It sounds like she needs professional help.

She does, but she won't accept any - turns away carers and social workers, etc

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Stopthatknocking · 26/02/2023 16:18

Are ss already involved? They won't become involved just because she has been evicted.
If they are already supporting her, they should be helping her make suitable plans now.
They won't just drop her off at your house and say ' tag- your problem now'

canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:18

Theunamedcat · 26/02/2023 16:17

She gets removed

Where to?

She is very physically fragile - multiple health issues

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MamOfFive · 26/02/2023 16:20

They'll get the police to remove her, she'll be expected to take herself down to the council.

AndTheSurveySays · 26/02/2023 16:20

Where to?

Anywhere outside of the property. If she's an adult with no children then it's likely she will become a street homeless if she hasnt/ wont accept help from services.

romdowa · 26/02/2023 16:20

canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:18

Where to?

She is very physically fragile - multiple health issues

They'll put her and her stuff on the stress and she'll be told to go down the local council offices with paperwork they give, to prove she's been evicted

romdowa · 26/02/2023 16:20

romdowa · 26/02/2023 16:20

They'll put her and her stuff on the stress and she'll be told to go down the local council offices with paperwork they give, to prove she's been evicted

*street

canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:21

AllWorkYoPlait · 26/02/2023 16:17

No one's gonna bring her to your door. She might turn up on your doorstep herself, of course.

Is she a council tenant or private?

She is a private tenant.

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canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:24

It's all very worrying, she needs constant medication, she won't survive on the street. I feel like she is on the edge of a precipice and there is nothing at all to be done

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MamOfFive · 26/02/2023 16:24

canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:24

It's all very worrying, she needs constant medication, she won't survive on the street. I feel like she is on the edge of a precipice and there is nothing at all to be done

Can't help someone who refuses to help themselves.

Rinoachicken · 26/02/2023 16:24

If she has obvious care and support she she might be classed as a vulnerable adult and then would be housed, probably in a hostel/hotel at least initially.

In that case, they will still remove her from the property, but they won’t just leave her on the street - because they’d have a duty of care. But if she won’t cooperate with services then I can see her staying on the street regardless.

If they judge her to be a risk to herself and lacking capacity she could end up being sectioned and then housed from there. Which would be a total waste of service and money when she could just cooperate but there we are!

None of this will be your problem though.

SimplySipping · 26/02/2023 16:25

I don't think "they" will turn up with her but is it possible she will turn up on your doorstep herself? I think that would actually be harder to say no to.

Rinoachicken · 26/02/2023 16:25

Care and support needs that should say

AllWorkYoPlait · 26/02/2023 16:26

canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:21

She is a private tenant.

Then if she has nowhere to go she'll be expected to take herself to the council and report as homeless.

If she has a social worker they should advise her.

If she won't engage with the help that's on offer there's not much you can do other than flag her to SS yourself as a vulnerable person.

canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:26

SimplySipping · 26/02/2023 16:25

I don't think "they" will turn up with her but is it possible she will turn up on your doorstep herself? I think that would actually be harder to say no to.

It is possible, and it would be very hard to say no, but I know it is still what I absolutely must do, there is no way we can take her in

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ItsShiela · 26/02/2023 16:26

canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:24

It's all very worrying, she needs constant medication, she won't survive on the street. I feel like she is on the edge of a precipice and there is nothing at all to be done

If she is that ill, can't she be sectioned to a psychiatric hospital, and that way she'd get help. At least she'd have accommodation while she's at the hospital.

Howmanysleepsnow · 26/02/2023 16:27

At best, they’ll put her in a taxi to the one-stop shop/ housing office to present for homeless accommodation- likely a hostel or cheap hotel room. At worst they’ll tell her to make her own way there.

canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:28

MamOfFive · 26/02/2023 16:24

Can't help someone who refuses to help themselves.

This is so true, there is nothing, nothing, nothing else I can do

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canthelp · 26/02/2023 16:30

ItsShiela · 26/02/2023 16:26

If she is that ill, can't she be sectioned to a psychiatric hospital, and that way she'd get help. At least she'd have accommodation while she's at the hospital.

This has been tried in the past, she didn't meet the threshold

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