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MIL reaction seems cold

58 replies

Asummersday · 25/02/2023 09:59

Not sure whether i’m just being overly sensitive and reading too much into things or if MIL is being insensitive.

I am early 30s for reference. Husband text MIL in our group chat to tell her the sad news that my sister had died.

she replies “sending hugs & our love”

then a couple of hours later a funny pic of her dog.

then nothing about it, for weeks. If it was me, I would at least send a card or check in with the person showing some empathy and care.

Am I overthinking this??

OP posts:
tulips27 · 25/02/2023 11:45

Oh sorry, I see it wasn't recent.

Emmamoo89 · 25/02/2023 11:48

Yanbu x

saraclara · 25/02/2023 11:49

MelchiorsMistress · 25/02/2023 11:18

Sending the picture would have been hugely insensitive if she sent it directly to the OP, but she put it on a group chat. If it’s a group chat with numerous family members on it then it would be understandable for her to continue to use the group chat as she usually does.

That.

In OP's position, I'd be posting about my feelings about DH giving such sad news in a group chat, to be honest.

Groutyonehereagain · 25/02/2023 11:50

When my sister died my MIL said to me “you should be grateful you had a sister, mine died when she was a child”. Now that’s insensitive!

Zanatdy · 25/02/2023 11:52

BiggerBoyMadeMeDoit · 25/02/2023 11:21

See, everyone reacts differently on both sides. Any flowers and cards I got when my Mother died went straight in the bin unopened. They didn’t help me at all and actually made me feel angry at the time that people thought that these could ‘replace’ my Mother.

Obviously now I realise they were sent with good intent, but at the time they didn’t help.

As you say everyone grieves differently and when we lost my dad we were all really grateful for all the friends and family who either popped round with flowers or had some delivered. Nothing can replace a parent or a loved one when they pass, but some kind words and flowers is just a gesture to let someone know you’re thinking of them. I’d rather send some and have them go in the bin than not bother and have my friend think I don’t care. My best friends (old school friends) and I always send flowers or gifts when there are life events. We sent care packages when we got covid, flowers for illness and bereavements. When my dad died I had cards off people I never expected to and it was really lovely and I’ve never forgotten.

tulips27 · 25/02/2023 11:53

People do say the most awful thing;, on the other hand I believe this is why sometimes people start saying nothing when someone tells someone else that someone has died: because of the pure fear of coming out with clangers like this that will be remembered for ever!

tulips27 · 25/02/2023 11:53

*things

Zanatdy · 25/02/2023 11:53

Groutyonehereagain · 25/02/2023 11:50

When my sister died my MIL said to me “you should be grateful you had a sister, mine died when she was a child”. Now that’s insensitive!

Wow. Cannot believe how insensitive some people can be. Shocking

BurtonsRevenge · 25/02/2023 11:57

What was the dog doing that was funny? Or was it just a funny looking dog?

Timeforachangeisitnot · 25/02/2023 11:57

That seems rather insensitive to me, however my late MIL was similar.
If something did not affect her directly she ignored it.

So sorry you lost your sister , that would be unbearable for me.💐

LuckySantangelo35 · 25/02/2023 12:00

WandaWonder · 25/02/2023 10:40

This seems to be a regular thing on here, you control how people act towards you of because of news etc.

Everyone does not read the same rule book 'what to do when x happens'

If people are looking for things to be upset or offended about they always will find then

@WandaWonder

its not about controlling how someone acts, it’s about showing some basic human emotion and empathy!

Testina · 25/02/2023 12:00

I’m not sure that my MIL would send me a card, or even reach out to me directly, if my sister died. She’s never met my sister though, and actually I’m not sure she could tell you how many siblings I even have - certainly couldn’t name them. Is that the same here?
I think sending only a message reply to him in the group chat is fine. Sure it’s a “could do better” situation, but if he dropped it into a group chat, he set the tone - he clearly didn’t think his mother was close to you.

I do think the dog picture was insensitive though! There’s no clear etiquette on how soon to start using a group chat again after sad news - but I’d say same day is out!

Neverknowinglyunderbold · 25/02/2023 12:03

Is it a family group with mainly his side of the family? How well does that family know your sister and why are you upset only with your MIL? What about others in the chat?

FrostyFifi · 25/02/2023 12:11

I honestly feel like everyone on here is also weirdly under-reacting, as if OP is talking about a very elderly great-aunty dying not her own sibling who has passed away at a tragically young age.

Surely a DIL suffering a major bereavement is a big deal within a family?

bussteward · 25/02/2023 12:12

The dog picture is awful and so is her initial message, which is a bit of a bland nothing as if he’d told her your boiler had broken down or something.

But! What was he thinking, sending that news to a group chat? There is no possible way that group can follow up the news and get back to talking normally (and it is OK for them to get back to normal) without it seeming cold. He should have phoned MIL and other family, or messaged them individually.

girlfriend44 · 25/02/2023 12:13

WandaWonder · 25/02/2023 10:40

This seems to be a regular thing on here, you control how people act towards you of because of news etc.

Everyone does not read the same rule book 'what to do when x happens'

If people are looking for things to be upset or offended about they always will find then

Exactly we can't please everyone all the time.
That's how she dealt with it whether it's right for you or not.
Stop the group text about people dying if you don't like it. Speak to people on the phone.

FrostyFifi · 25/02/2023 12:13

I'm also shocked that more people on this thread aren't offering their condolences.

SchoolQuestionnaire · 25/02/2023 12:20

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/02/2023 11:06

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · Today 10:41
Sorry for your loss OP.

I don't think your husband sending a text to let MIL know about the loss of your sister has helped the situation. It's quite a shocking way to receive such news. Perhaps as the way she received the message was so flippant MIL didn't see the importance?“

This. Almost as bad as a Facebook announcement.

This is a horrid way to look at it and very judgemental of a grieving person.

I told my closest friends about the loss of my dm via text on our group chat. I didn’t feel able to get the words out over the phone and we don’t all live close together to do so in person as we had with relatives. Dh offered to speak to them but he was also upset and I preferred that they were all told at the same time.

They were quite able to understand the importance of the news of my dm’s death in spite of the fact it was delivered by text and it certainly didn’t stop them being the lovely supportive friends they have always been. Perhaps because they are good people and not insensitive twats.

There is no excuse for the mil’s behaviour and lack of support.

SerafinasGoose · 25/02/2023 12:29

I'm sorry, OP.

My SiL made the death of my darling mum even more painful than it needed to be. She came to my home the day after the funeral and had a long telephone conversation with my MiL right in front of me, in which she said 'what would I do if I didn't have my mum to talk to?'

She has never been invited back.

Mil and SiL ostracized me when I had a particularly nasty miscarriage (one of several).

Last year I almost died (DVT clots and two huge emboli, one in each lung). When MiL visited over the Christmas break, and I'd cooked for her, not only did she not bother to ask how I was (I wasn't expecting concern) but for some reason best known to herself refused even to speak to me.

She won't be seeing me again. I am through.

DaisyDays123 · 25/02/2023 13:02

Unfortunately some people just don’t have the emotional capacity to be there for other people. She may be suffering from depression or it could have triggered her own feelings of loss about a sibling, whatever she is going through doesn’t really matter, the fact is she doesn’t have the energy/capability to be emotionally supportive to you right now. It’s not right or wrong, it’s just the situation.

If it was me I would make a mental note of it, and if she is ever in the same situation give her back the same emotional distance she is giving you. trauma and loss can either bring people closer or further apart - she’s chosen to distance herself. It’s sad.

Inkpotlover · 25/02/2023 13:14

I would be disappointed with the lack of interest and her not checking in with you. For contrast, my parents only see my DP's brother once a year around Christmas but I know they'd attend send a card and call and even possibly attend the funeral to show support for my DP. Are you close to your MIL?

Quveas · 25/02/2023 13:23

tulips27 · 25/02/2023 11:44

If her dog message was recent I'd be tempted to reply and say you think it's insensitive, otherwise it will be on your mind for years. "Nice pic but I feel this was a bit insensitive considering that I've just lost my sister".

Not sure I agree with that. I'm assuming this picture was in the group chat. So weirdly OP's husband sends a text in a group chat about the death, MIL responds in the group chat, and then later posts a photo to the group chat. That's how I read it. So the photo wasn't, as I am reading it, personal to the OP, and there is no reason why the group chat goes into solemn mode even if everyone in it is sad at the news.

Honestly I think the odd thing was the OH posting something like that in a group chat, and I am not sure, beyond the response the OP got, what was expected. Not everyone is into cards and flowers these days. I might act differently, but not everyone does act the same. And I do see so many people who think that texting / group chats etc replaces other types of contact. So I am not sure that I would be making a judgement based on a single thing that is open to misinterpretation.

FrostyFifi · 25/02/2023 13:38

I'd expect a group chat to be appropriately solemn if the news of a major loss had just been shared, even if they weren't well acquainted with OPs sister they presumably are with OP herself.

SomeMonstersEatTelly · 25/02/2023 13:58

Gosh, OP, I am so terribly sorry. Losing a sibling must be really difficult.

You aren’t being unreasonable at all. That is a very cold reaction from your MIL and somewhat trivialises your loss. My MIL text me photos of her new kitchen after hearing I had lost a pregnancy and I can remember being such in the throws of grief that I had to check with DH that I wasn’t going mad to think it was a batshit response. It was three months later (actually at the point when the darkness was beginning to lift) that she sent me a card, but only after I had failed to respond to all communication from her.

Needless to say MIL and I are not close and it is behaviour like this which is the reason why.

Do you have a friend to talk to? It might be helpful to hear their outrage. What does DH think?

Marjoriesdoor · 25/02/2023 14:01

I pressed YABU by accident. Sorry for your loss and yes, that is very insensitive.

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