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I am so fed up of a lack of food in shops.

881 replies

OutofEverything · 23/02/2023 00:51

This has been going on for a few years but is only getting worse. I had to go to 3 supermarkets before I found some eggs. No lettuce at all, a few packs of salad tomatoes available in one supermarket, loads of empty spaces in the fruit and veg section, and in ASDA even the freezers had loads of empty spaces.

Before anyone says yes I know we will not starve, there is enough actual food. But a visit to a supermarket now is a lottery about what will be available and what is missing. And more and more I am having to visit multiple shops to get absolute basics.

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Bloopsie · 23/02/2023 08:06

MeanderingGently · 23/02/2023 06:32

Yes, there are shortages but due to a variety of reasons. I can't get worked up about it myself. I mean, limited to 3 cucumbers?? Who the hell eats three bloody cucumbers at once anyway?? I don't think I've bought a cucumber since last summer, when I was having salads.....

My kids do, I have 5 children

kirinm · 23/02/2023 08:07

I'm in London and have definitely noticed this.

Greatly · 23/02/2023 08:08

Bloopsie · 23/02/2023 08:06

My kids do, I have 5 children

Well maybe you will have to ration them to half a cucumber each per day.

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:08

Threads like this are really just another leftie campaign, along with the endless strikes to try break our country and they keep chipping away.

They will not be satisfied until the country has been dragged down by the bitter and venomous.

No one cares that much about a tomato. It’s insidious twist, to try and make it into something it isn’t that is disturbing.

PandasAreUseless · 23/02/2023 08:08

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:04

Nope. Just you.
Meanwhile bodies of man, women and children mount in Ukraine.

🤣...You do know its not illegal to make observations about minor quirks and annoyances in life because terrible things are also happening elsewhere in the world.
Top class virtue signalling though 👌

MeatballHead · 23/02/2023 08:10

BorisJohnsonsHair · 23/02/2023 07:38

This has a lot to do with supermarkets. They are very rigid on prices they will pay to suppliers as they insist on having cheap food. As soon as prices go up they don't want to know

Serves us all right for not using independents and local shops.

I've just come on to write this precise thing
Supermarkets have bought this on along with when the French striked when lorry drivers were stuck here suddenly for days and loads said they would not come back and risk that happening again

Greatly · 23/02/2023 08:10

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:08

Threads like this are really just another leftie campaign, along with the endless strikes to try break our country and they keep chipping away.

They will not be satisfied until the country has been dragged down by the bitter and venomous.

No one cares that much about a tomato. It’s insidious twist, to try and make it into something it isn’t that is disturbing.

What a daft post. Save your ire for the way farmers are treated in this country. Told to diversify rather than grow actual food, subsidies removed via Brexit with no plan in place, paid peanuts by the supermarkets and the final insult getting that goblin Therese Coffey as farming minister.

DiDonk · 23/02/2023 08:11

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 07:57

It’s bountiful in the U.K. for heavens sake. It’s really so pathetic. Have you seen our starving nation? Wasting away I tell you, wasting away.

I don't really understand what you're saying:

First everyone is having shortages

Next the EU isn't but the food there is rubbish

Now the UK isn't having shortages and it's a storm in a teacup.

So which is it?

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:11

PandasAreUseless · 23/02/2023 08:08

🤣...You do know its not illegal to make observations about minor quirks and annoyances in life because terrible things are also happening elsewhere in the world.
Top class virtue signalling though 👌

Do you know I had the choice of organic lemons, essential lemons, normal lemons, mixed packed variety lemons and limes. Mixed packed variety with oranges, lemons and limes. Lemons with leaves that were a tiny bit more pricy. That is just one supermarket in the U.K. It’s utterly ridiculous that anyone is complaining at all!!!!!!! 🍋

GreenMarigold · 23/02/2023 08:12

StrawHatOnTheParcelShelf · 23/02/2023 05:06

For environmental and animal welfare reasons I feel quite positive about the absence of lettuce in the UK in February, and a reduction in the mass production of eggs. If in fact those are the reasons, and they're not all just backed up in a warehouse somewhere.

The reason that eggs aren’t on the shelves is that millions of chickens have been culled because of bird flu.

It’s not just the high intensity units affected, free range and organic birds are also being culled en masse when there is an outbreak. The ones that aren’t culled are having to live inside.

It is the complete opposite of being good for animal welfare and in future will encourage inside bird production for protection from bird flu exposure.

ImAvingOops · 23/02/2023 08:12

Brexit has highlighted problems which already existed under the surface. Successive governments have failed to invest in recruitment and training of British workers because it was easier and cheaper to get them from abroad. And while that benefited the state (who didn't have to train doctors and dentists) and certain employers (who didn't have to pay living wages) it has screwed over British people.

Brexit was a long time in the making - there were rumblings for years that at some point we might leave. Did any government prepare? Did they fuck! Not a politician but if I had been in government I might have thought to invest in training and paying a decent wage to domestic employees so that the necessary work got done. We voted in 2016 so we could have been years in to training the next generation of healthcare workers, HGV drivers, crop pickers. Instead the govt has squandered that time feathering its own nest and lying about parties.

The problem isn't so much Brexit as the calibre of British politicians, who used to hide behind the EU to disguise their incompetence but no longer have that shield.

Evergreenlevelbest1 · 23/02/2023 08:13

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:08

Threads like this are really just another leftie campaign, along with the endless strikes to try break our country and they keep chipping away.

They will not be satisfied until the country has been dragged down by the bitter and venomous.

No one cares that much about a tomato. It’s insidious twist, to try and make it into something it isn’t that is disturbing.

Lefties are very annoying! Would you say, overall, Brexit will turn out to have been a good thing?

butterfliedtwo · 23/02/2023 08:13

Snoken · 23/02/2023 07:52

I am too, live in Sweden, and here there are no shortages at all and it's not something that is talked about either. Which country are you in where there are shortages?

Where I am in Denmark seems pretty well stocked too. It's more expensive, but it's there. Lights are on less during the day in shops, but that's just common sense.

SummerWinds · 23/02/2023 08:13

Customers have been extremely spoilt in the past and now become very entitled. Maybe now they will appreciate the logistics of getting food on shelves.
I work in a supermarket and people have become addicted to complaining, even though most of them hid away during covid whilst we were expect ed to soldier on. What short memories they have.

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:14

DiDonk · 23/02/2023 08:11

I don't really understand what you're saying:

First everyone is having shortages

Next the EU isn't but the food there is rubbish

Now the UK isn't having shortages and it's a storm in a teacup.

So which is it?

It’s bountiful everywhere in Europe by anyone’s standards, but the U.K. has more choice, at incredibly low prices than almost anywhere else!

The idea this country does not have enough food of every kind is embarrassing, inaccurate and given the obesity crisis clearly very very far from the truth.

So on Shrove Tuesday week the supermarkets run low on eggs. Shock bloody horror.

Wonnle · 23/02/2023 08:14

BernieBarks · 23/02/2023 05:21

We are being gaslight by our government . It's down to Brexit .

Not totally but it's got a fair bit to with it , no freedom of movement for goods from the EU these days , or visa versa either

Bloopsie · 23/02/2023 08:14

Greatly · 23/02/2023 08:08

Well maybe you will have to ration them to half a cucumber each per day.

2 have ASD and cucumber is one of the few things they actually eat, so by your advice i should ration cucumbers so i can go shop for crisps and sweets instead that are not rationed? No their dad drives around all the local shops until he finds enough to cover their needs, they also suffer from chronic constipation are on up to 6 packs of laxatives a day so cucumber is a very much needed and perfect food for them, they are also home educated so they eat all their meals at home (involving cucumber).

Funny advice to hear in 2023 in the UK, ration your kids on eating cucumber lol. No wonder the politicians get away with what they are doing if there are people like you voting for them and not seeing how much this country is failing.

Greatly · 23/02/2023 08:15

butterfliedtwo · 23/02/2023 08:13

Where I am in Denmark seems pretty well stocked too. It's more expensive, but it's there. Lights are on less during the day in shops, but that's just common sense.

Yes. You pay more to suppliers to import your food, hence your prices being far higher than the UK. The UK is addicted to cheap food so as soon as suppliers have a choice they will dump the UK.

PandasAreUseless · 23/02/2023 08:15

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:11

Do you know I had the choice of organic lemons, essential lemons, normal lemons, mixed packed variety lemons and limes. Mixed packed variety with oranges, lemons and limes. Lemons with leaves that were a tiny bit more pricy. That is just one supermarket in the U.K. It’s utterly ridiculous that anyone is complaining at all!!!!!!! 🍋

Calm down you numpty!
I'm making a mild observation about a supply chain issue because I'm interested in whats going on behind the scenes.
That's literally what this thread is about!

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:15

SummerWinds · 23/02/2023 08:13

Customers have been extremely spoilt in the past and now become very entitled. Maybe now they will appreciate the logistics of getting food on shelves.
I work in a supermarket and people have become addicted to complaining, even though most of them hid away during covid whilst we were expect ed to soldier on. What short memories they have.

You have my sympathy. I can’t imagine how you cope listening to this entitled whinging every day. You must have the patience of a saint

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:16

PandasAreUseless · 23/02/2023 08:15

Calm down you numpty!
I'm making a mild observation about a supply chain issue because I'm interested in whats going on behind the scenes.
That's literally what this thread is about!

Of course you are dear.

Greatly · 23/02/2023 08:16

Bloopsie · 23/02/2023 08:14

2 have ASD and cucumber is one of the few things they actually eat, so by your advice i should ration cucumbers so i can go shop for crisps and sweets instead that are not rationed? No their dad drives around all the local shops until he finds enough to cover their needs, they also suffer from chronic constipation are on up to 6 packs of laxatives a day so cucumber is a very much needed and perfect food for them, they are also home educated so they eat all their meals at home (involving cucumber).

Funny advice to hear in 2023 in the UK, ration your kids on eating cucumber lol. No wonder the politicians get away with what they are doing if there are people like you voting for them and not seeing how much this country is failing.

Your children's cucumber needs are unusual and slightly ridiculous.

Alittlebitofbreadandsomecheese · 23/02/2023 08:17

StrawHatOnTheParcelShelf · 23/02/2023 05:06

For environmental and animal welfare reasons I feel quite positive about the absence of lettuce in the UK in February, and a reduction in the mass production of eggs. If in fact those are the reasons, and they're not all just backed up in a warehouse somewhere.

I agree with that ^

I have often bought produce from a supermarket to find it 'goes off' practically the next day. That tells me it's been stockpiled somewhere.

I've worked for a major supermarket and the amount of fresh produce they used to throw away was horrific.

User158432907 · 23/02/2023 08:17

Bloopsie · 23/02/2023 08:14

2 have ASD and cucumber is one of the few things they actually eat, so by your advice i should ration cucumbers so i can go shop for crisps and sweets instead that are not rationed? No their dad drives around all the local shops until he finds enough to cover their needs, they also suffer from chronic constipation are on up to 6 packs of laxatives a day so cucumber is a very much needed and perfect food for them, they are also home educated so they eat all their meals at home (involving cucumber).

Funny advice to hear in 2023 in the UK, ration your kids on eating cucumber lol. No wonder the politicians get away with what they are doing if there are people like you voting for them and not seeing how much this country is failing.

Hopefully you grow your own cucumbers in the summer

FeelingwearyFeeelingsmall · 23/02/2023 08:18

I live in London and have just placed an Ocado shop. No iceberg lettuce, tomatoes or blueberries available for a weekend delivery.

The thing that strikes me is that although these have become staples in our house, they are all out of season in the U.K. at the moment. We might have to get used to eating more seasonably.