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I am so fed up of a lack of food in shops.

881 replies

OutofEverything · 23/02/2023 00:51

This has been going on for a few years but is only getting worse. I had to go to 3 supermarkets before I found some eggs. No lettuce at all, a few packs of salad tomatoes available in one supermarket, loads of empty spaces in the fruit and veg section, and in ASDA even the freezers had loads of empty spaces.

Before anyone says yes I know we will not starve, there is enough actual food. But a visit to a supermarket now is a lottery about what will be available and what is missing. And more and more I am having to visit multiple shops to get absolute basics.

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bigbazooka · 23/02/2023 08:56

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:50

Nope, wrong answer. The country does not contain a single tomato anywhere!

I literally purchased tomatoes for my spag bol last night. Fresh ones. from Sainsburys.

ropeycorn · 23/02/2023 08:57

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:54

You can not say it is bird flu even if it’s the truth. You can only bash away at brexit or the government preferably both on here.

Op seems to have disappeared. No surprise there. Au revoir op thanks for the thread 🙄

Them's the rules.....

BREXIT

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 23/02/2023 08:58

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I see you have a lot to bring to this discussion, and none of it particularly helpful.
You're coming across like a bot, or a defensive denialist, before you start accusing posters of taking meds I think you need to look a little closer to home a bit

ropeycorn · 23/02/2023 08:59

bigbazooka · 23/02/2023 08:56

I literally purchased tomatoes for my spag bol last night. Fresh ones. from Sainsburys.

no tomatoe's on the street markets either... apparently the apostrophes have run out as well. Bloody EU regulations apparently.

beAsensible1 · 23/02/2023 08:59

can't say this happening where i am at all? all shops full even the greengrocers?

YesYou · 23/02/2023 08:59

"In London where I live, I have not encountered this problem at all, maybe is worse outside of London?
if you don’t find what you want, then make something else instead, get some cookery books"

🤣

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:59

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 23/02/2023 08:56

😂
Um ..
I was just pointing out what it's like here.
Why are you being so bizarre lol

Because we are faced with this tomato apocalypse thanks to the Ukrainians not keeling over and surrendering on the first week of the invasion. Now the poor prior of Great Britain will suffer the indignity of a tomato shortage for a few days.

Tantrums galore all week on here. Anyone would think there was a war or something going on.

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 08:59

People

Clavinova · 23/02/2023 09:00

maddy68
Honestly the press /government is gas lighting the UK
The EU distribution is working as normal , all EU countries have plentiful stocks
This is solely a Brexit issue

Ireland?

www.irishtimes.com/food/2023/02/21/supply-of-vegetables-to-ireland-disrupted-by-poor-weather-and-energy-costs/

www.breakingnews.ie/business/fruit-and-vegetable-shortage-due-to-poor-weather-in-spain-irish-retailers-say-1436373.html

This supermarket in the Netherlands is explaining shortages of bell peppers, cauliflower, broccoli and iceberg lettuce due to bad weather in Spain (16 Feb 2023);

www.freshplaza.com/europe/article/9503487/no-end-to-cauliflower-shortage-in-sight-yet/

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 23/02/2023 09:00

Tantrums 😂
Good grief.
You Ok?!

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 09:01

beAsensible1 · 23/02/2023 08:59

can't say this happening where i am at all? all shops full even the greengrocers?

Jesus not another bloody happy customer!

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 09:02

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 23/02/2023 09:00

Tantrums 😂
Good grief.
You Ok?!

Wits end jumps to mind. I am so glad I have vibrant positive people in my life, I could not deal with this level of whinging and entitlement in real life! Are you actually for real people????

ClareBlue · 23/02/2023 09:02

NoFux · 23/02/2023 07:41

@Snoken

I was talking with a speaker at work recently, on sustainable living, and they said that the developed world wastes so much food, scraps so much deemed not pretty enough to sell and even slaughter and dump animals due to "overstock" instead of processing the meat. He said that almost all first world nations definitely can live very well on their own produce, we have just been conditioned to want our food at upper class standards on peasant prices and not to look at what the world governments are doing with our resources.

In Ireland a shocking 20 percent of all food purchased is wasted. I wouldn't imagine UK is not much different. 80p for 6 eggs is not sustainable. Food is too cheap. Supermarkets refuse to pay suppliers properly for 20 years and now they just can not supply. Historically we pay the lowest perc of our income on food in history and demand low prices and unseasonable goods. Cooking literacy is lowest ever leading to waste and unimagitive food use. We travel more and experience food we want to buy when back home. We spend less time on food prep but travel out of town to buy food at supermarkets because local shops are forced out but then over stock and throw food out. At the same time all the income we used to spend on food and supporting producers and retailers now goes on providing the basic need of shelter. The cost to our incomes of housing and food has flipped. It's now seen as the norm to spend 20 times an annual income to provide a basic house for your family but 80p to buy 6 eggs. Suppliers just can not supply at the prices people want to pay.

beAsensible1 · 23/02/2023 09:02

ImAvingOops · 23/02/2023 08:12

Brexit has highlighted problems which already existed under the surface. Successive governments have failed to invest in recruitment and training of British workers because it was easier and cheaper to get them from abroad. And while that benefited the state (who didn't have to train doctors and dentists) and certain employers (who didn't have to pay living wages) it has screwed over British people.

Brexit was a long time in the making - there were rumblings for years that at some point we might leave. Did any government prepare? Did they fuck! Not a politician but if I had been in government I might have thought to invest in training and paying a decent wage to domestic employees so that the necessary work got done. We voted in 2016 so we could have been years in to training the next generation of healthcare workers, HGV drivers, crop pickers. Instead the govt has squandered that time feathering its own nest and lying about parties.

The problem isn't so much Brexit as the calibre of British politicians, who used to hide behind the EU to disguise their incompetence but no longer have that shield.

this in nutshell, their incompetence is laid bare and none of them even now have a plan on upskilling our workforce to fill our job needs.

everyone is just looking the other way

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 09:03

Meanwhile the bodies mount in Ukraine.

Zebedee55 · 23/02/2023 09:03

It does only seem to be the UK, not the rest of the EU. Yet, we all had the same extreme weather at times, the Ukraine conflict affects all of Europe, and energy costs have risen throughout the world. The only difference with us is Brexit. Funny that.🙄

www.lbc.co.uk/news/supermarkets-ration-fruit-veg-brexit-british-farmers-energy-costs/

RosesAndHellebores · 23/02/2023 09:03

I haven't noticed a lack of food. Since December I have not had one substitution on my Tescos order. When I pop into a supermarket they seem.oretty well stocked with what I need although there are some gaps.

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/02/2023 09:03

Crumpetdisappointment · 23/02/2023 02:36

it is not what we are used to is it.
remember there is a war in ukraine
there is bird flu
there is a high cost of living
this should make you realise these things.

And there is Brexit.

And fewer people to harvest crops.

And massive increases in transportation charges which make many products unviable to transport, because people will just not pay for them

beAsensible1 · 23/02/2023 09:04

Blessedwithsunshine · 23/02/2023 09:01

Jesus not another bloody happy customer!

dunno about happy, the fruit is still wildly expensive and supermarket veg is largely shit

Bloopsie · 23/02/2023 09:04

Greatly · 23/02/2023 08:52

Well, perhaps you can't eat massive amounts of cucumbers for a while. If you have a garden I suggest saving the 5 a day you would normally spend on cucumber and buying some pots and seeds.

We have a large garden and an allotment with other 20 raspberry bushes, about 300 strawberry plants, 20 blackcurrant bushes, 6 apple trees, 3 pear trees, 4 plum trees, 4 cherry trees etc

cucumber harvest got ruined last year not that it would have lastes over the winter anyway, children dont eat vinegar or salt preserved cucumber but fresh only. Growing your own is not a guaranteed harvest, there are plenty of pests around (green flies,caterpillars,slugs etc) that can mess with what you are or are not going to get. Costs wise you dont “save” much either, the fertilisers,soil, etc add up and after doing maths we know when it comes to strawberries etc we grow them for “fun” for the kids,during summer its cheaper to buy yellow label boxes from tesco rhab grow your own.

How is 3 cucumbers “massive” amount between 7 people when a single person can buy the same amount just for themselves?

Can i ask people who advise to grow your own, do you actually grow your own and feed your family all year around? I think the answer is no, i grew up on a 55ha farm and still teaded with other local farmers of for produce.

Clavinova · 23/02/2023 09:04

If rumour is to be believed a Minister already stands accused of throwing tomatoes

At least tomatoes are soft;
What happens when Gordon Brown gets angry? The laser printer gets it.
An aide says the prime minister's fury has seen him hurl pens and a stapler as well as shoving a printer off a desk.

www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2009/apr/24/gordon-brown-angry

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/02/2023 09:04

beAsensible1 · 23/02/2023 09:02

this in nutshell, their incompetence is laid bare and none of them even now have a plan on upskilling our workforce to fill our job needs.

everyone is just looking the other way

Spot on!

C4tastrophe · 23/02/2023 09:04

PandasAreUseless · 23/02/2023 08:01

Sorry to derail, but since Covid (or more likely, Brexit) I've experienced a first - lemons going mouldy within a week.
Lemons used to last us weeks/months. Now I'm regularly chucking them out like they're a soft fruit.
I assume something grim is now happening in the supply chain, such as the lemons being frozen and then defrosted.
Anyone else?

I’m with you there. I can hardly get them sliced and in the G&T before they’ve gone off.

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