To think the Independent’s cartoon of Nicola Sturgeon is shameful, misogynistic and dangerous

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Just saw horrible cartoon from the Independent with decapitated Nicola sturgeon playing the bagpipes. In the light of death threats to female politicians (including Nicola) I don’t know how this kind of inflammatory media is allowed. It’s really not funny.

Hmm, I assumed it was a reference to William Wallace (aka Braveheart)- a rather tame one, if you consider that his beheading was the last of several tortures inflicted on him.

So whether it’s offensive depends on her politics. Very interesting.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2020/mar/04/steve-bell-on-boris-johnson-defending-priti-patel-at-pmqs-cartoon

They're both horrible to be honest.

I think Sturgeon has hurt Scotland badly but that cartoon is vile.

That’s off too tbh

Reminds me of caricature in French magazine which I can’t think of

Charlie Hebdo?

oh ffs, It's no worse than any cartoon would be for a male. It's not humorous to me but really it's just a concept. I like NS quite a bit by the way, if only she wasn't so into Scottish independence.

That’s it. I’m not keen on racial caricature

I realise I’ve just objected to three political cartoons in succession. I do think some are very good. I’d have to google to find ones I like.

Politics is a tough game. And these politicians are at the peak. They've all enjoyed the power and influence they've had. And they equally have to accept criticism, even if it is offensive. These cartoons are just going to be taken in their stride. It wouldn't surprise ne if Borus actually collected them!
They have to have hides of rhinos and extraordinary self-confidence or they'd never be able to survive the pressure.

Yeah I don't find it funny. But she's way more offensive and dangerous than a comic strip.

It's a political cartoon, theres a long history of those being pretty grotesque, shocking images - that's really rather the point.

Misogynistic though... no, or are we saying its fair game to cartoon the blokes but not the women?

Here's some others by the same cartoonist:

twitter.com/DaveBrownToons/status/1623021951655546891/photo/1

Does this, or this:

twitter.com/DaveBrownToons/status/1619049048371232768/photo/1

Mean the artist is anti-man? I don't think so.

If you simply don't like political cartoons... don't look at them. I don't want to live in a world were we can't express how we feel about certain people and their actions or ideas though, that to me is FAR worse than any distasteful or grotesque cartoon!

It is. The cartoon is more anti Britain than it is anti women, if anything. They are not literally suggesting she should be beheaded. Instead, she has politically been “murdered” by her quest for Scottish independence. Just like William Wallace. The yellow represents SNP, and their “death” as a party - since they were effectively a single cause party.

They have even attempted to take her gender out of the equation completely by dressing her in traditionally male clothing.

Anyone who believes this is anti women or inciting violence against her is taking this cartoon way too literally.

I don't care whether its Priti Patel , Nicola Sturgeon or whoever. That's in poor taste.

What about it? Thought those cartoons were disgusting and racist as well

And I do think with the murders of Jo Cox and David Amess that the media does have a role to play in the way that it dehumanises politicians.

I think they were answering my post

This actually sounds like it's very clever when explained. Political cartoons are meant to be offensive to male their point, probably free speech is the most important factor here. My immediate response was to agree with you OP, but I changed my mind when thinking about the context

I'm Scottish, cannot stand Sturgeon and I'm really dismayed at the cartoon. Too far.

I was just replying to a poster who asked this.

Reminds me of caricature in French magazine which I can’t think of

Oh I missed that. Apologies

Disgusting political cartoons aren't my cup of tea, but the immediate jump to "it's misogyny" every time someone says, writes or draws something negative about a specific woman, politician or otherwise, is tiresome. How will women in positions of power be taken seriously if all scrutiny is deemed misogynistic?

Given her betrayal of women, I can't care enough to wring my hands over this.

Sorry! Makes sense now

Political cartoons are almost always really clever, and can be enjoyed on many levels and interpreted in multiple ways. I do think free press is really, really important.

I don't remember seeing any violent ones with Boris Johnson?

Delighted Sturgeon has gone. Believe in free press. Is the cartoon incitement to violence?

I'd say Boris as a butchered pig pretty violent...

twitter.com/DaveBrownToons/status/1540391948804128768/photo/1

Drowning...

twitter.com/DaveBrownToons/status/1491492072901251073/photo/1

Yep, no grotesque or violent ones about Boris...

Poor Nicola....boo fucking hoo.