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To not be surprised the NHS is in trouble…

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Itmakesnosensetome · 17/02/2023 15:34

We’re on holiday in Tenerife. We’re in a pretty nice hotel, fairly pricey so quite a lot of wealthy retired people . Pretty much every single person is very overweight or obese. I don’t mean a bit of a tum and hips- I’m talking huge, hard bellies on the men and massive women. there has always been overweight people but this feels unbelievable. There are some Spanish, Norwegian and Swedish people and none of them are fat - how can the NHS cope with this problem?

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BigMandysBookClub · 20/02/2023 17:55

I think the issue is that many of us work long hours and have caring responsibilities and a sedentary job. I barely get any free time between my job, chores and caring. I have a gym membership and try to run, but don't manage to do much because of time constraints and kids bringing bugs home all of the time. I eat fairly healthily and am not over weight, but I could do a lot better if I had time to make more effort. Modern life needs to be more conducive to being healthy and active.

JudgeJ · 20/02/2023 22:32

TheSnootiestFox · 19/02/2023 19:21

Neither. I'm referring to those up thread saying that if they 'were in charge' obese people would be charged for treatment. In my case and for many women like me, we need treatment because we weren't diagnosed in time by an incompetent NHS. What's unclear?

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However, if we are saying that obesity is a lifestyle choice and people should be charged for treatment, can we also include other lifestyle choices, drugs, alcohol, smoking related diseases and say those people should also be charged for their care? More and more lifestyle problems are now being 'diagnosed' as illnesses that let people off the hook, even being a slob nd not keeping your home clean and tidy is now a 'MH' condition. Let the NHS deal with illnesses, not never ending inventions.

TheSnootiestFox · 21/02/2023 07:55

JudgeJ · 20/02/2023 22:32

However, if we are saying that obesity is a lifestyle choice and people should be charged for treatment, can we also include other lifestyle choices, drugs, alcohol, smoking related diseases and say those people should also be charged for their care? More and more lifestyle problems are now being 'diagnosed' as illnesses that let people off the hook, even being a slob nd not keeping your home clean and tidy is now a 'MH' condition. Let the NHS deal with illnesses, not never ending inventions.

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A progressive genetic disease where non metabolic fat builds up on arms and legs eventually causing disfigurement and disability is not a lifestyle choice and I most certainly don't want to be 'let off the hook'. How fucking dare you??!

JenniferBooth · 21/02/2023 12:36

What absolute ignorance @JudgeJ If you are university educated as most of the middle classes on here claim to be it was a waste of money. i want to say brains and common sense are two different things but you dont seem to have either.

letthemalldoone · 21/02/2023 14:41

JudgeJ · 20/02/2023 22:32

However, if we are saying that obesity is a lifestyle choice and people should be charged for treatment, can we also include other lifestyle choices, drugs, alcohol, smoking related diseases and say those people should also be charged for their care? More and more lifestyle problems are now being 'diagnosed' as illnesses that let people off the hook, even being a slob nd not keeping your home clean and tidy is now a 'MH' condition. Let the NHS deal with illnesses, not never ending inventions.

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What a ridiculous, nasty, supercilious post!!

I certainly don't see obesity as a "lifestyle choice" - I have never met anyone yet who went deliberately eating to excess to put on weight!!

So what do you do that "lets you off the hook"??? Practically perfect are we?

DiddyHeck · 21/02/2023 18:33

I certainly don't see obesity as a "lifestyle choice" - I have never met anyone yet who went deliberately eating to excess to put on weight!!

Of the 64% of UK adults who are overweight/obese, there will be plenty who choose to do nothing about it and for some of them, the reason will be because they just don't want to give up or cut back on treats, junk food and alcohol.

So for some, it's very much a lifestyle choice at the moment anyway.

Florenz · 21/02/2023 18:51

Tax junk food and stop selling it in supermarkets. If people want to eat junk food they should have to go a specialist shop to buy it. And it should not be allowed to be advertised or packaged attractively.

JenniferBooth · 21/02/2023 19:06

Tax Botox and fillers (more if they arent taxed already) If these treatments go wrong and people need treatment on the NHS to put them right they can pay for it

I can play this game too.

TheSnootiestFox · 21/02/2023 21:49

JenniferBooth · 21/02/2023 19:06

Tax Botox and fillers (more if they arent taxed already) If these treatments go wrong and people need treatment on the NHS to put them right they can pay for it

I can play this game too.

Oh yes, and what about all those dodgy breast implants done privately that were then removed by the NHS? Didn't see anyone going on about lifestyle choices then! 🙄

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