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'Nicola Bulley's reputation 'destroyed' by police'

922 replies

MyrtIe · 16/02/2023 10:37

Article here

The points made about victim blaming and the police disclosing this information to cover themselves are spot on imo.

The usual gutter press are having a field day with this today.

What exactly was the point of it? What's it achieved, apart from compounding the heartache of her loved ones?

YABU - the police were right to divulge this sensitive information as it was relevant to the investigation

YANBU - there was absolutely no need to do so

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70sShmeventies · 16/02/2023 14:51

They’ve handled it really badly, it seems as if they don’t have a proper media strategy. Say nothing then WHAM drop a massive clanger like this. That poor woman and her family. The police should have stuck to their guns and got on with solving the case without comment, only updating where necessary. Whilst this is relevant to the case but not something the public needed to know. However, the interest and interference from the public has been shocking and bizarre so I understand they are under pressure but then they are the police and should stand firm.

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/02/2023 14:51

Notonthestairs · 16/02/2023 14:43

Statement from Nicola's family.

The content of which is far more important than the bloody theorising on this site and elsewhere.

twitter.com/lancspolice/status/1626218463823011840?s=46&t=ov0W9941CqR6im0mp674UQ

Hear hear.

itsgettingweird · 16/02/2023 14:51

Is everyone as up in arms about the fact information was released about police visiting the home recently of the family who were murdered in a murder/suicide?

It painted a bigger picture and although the armchair detectives used it - again - to draw the known conclusions it was information felt relevant to report and so it was.

My only hope is the gaming get some answered and those poor children don't go through life not knowing what happened to their mum. They will be aware she had addiction issues and her MH wasn't good. That being published won't affect them. Never knowing absolutely will.

MySugarBabyLove · 16/02/2023 14:51

Poor, poor woman. All they had to say was that she was vulnerable. I've seen that written in missing person articles in our local paper if a vulnerable person goes missing. It's respectful, but informative. read the bbc news article.

The details were released because someone was about to sell them to the media.

If they had said she was vulnerable the details would have been sold to the media and it would still have been out there.

Even the family have acknowledged that although Nicola wouldn’t have wanted the information out there, someone was threatening to sell it.

It’s very easy to say that the police should only have released the fact that she was vulnerable, but given the intense interest in this case that was never going to be enough.

Just look at the response yesterday when the police did exactly that. Accusations of child abuse, spousal abuse, the list goes on, releasing the actual facts in fact made things better not worse.

BabyOnBoard90 · 16/02/2023 14:53

Don't see how released such information brings them closer to finding her. So it was inappropriate.

AlwaysLatte · 16/02/2023 14:54

I thought during the conference yesterday that they would need to elaborate on their mention of 'vulnerabilities' and wondered if they did actually mean to say that.

Pearfacebananapoop · 16/02/2023 14:55

I find it astonishing this has been branded that her reputation is "completely destroyed". She's 45. She's menopausal. Menopause support is woeful in this country. How is this destroying her reputation or a surprise?

Perhaps she is one of the many women on here daily begging for HRT and being turned away?

The alcohol angle is just a distraction.

IClaudine · 16/02/2023 15:03

The police watchdog is now looking at the decision to release the information.

IClaudine · 16/02/2023 15:04

IClaudine · 16/02/2023 15:03

The police watchdog is now looking at the decision to release the information.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/nicola-bulley-police-speculation-lancashire-b2283682.html

Jennybeans401 · 16/02/2023 15:07

The information about the alcoholism would only have relevance if the Police genuinely thought she had fallen in the river. As it stands there's no evidence to suggest that. If her dh said she uses the morning dog walk to drink vodka then maybe there's an argument it's relevant. It's unlikely though that her husband would want her to drive the children to school like that?

Coldilox · 16/02/2023 15:08

The police released the information because people were getting ready to sell stories about Nicola. So it would have come out anyway, but now at least those ghouls aren’t making any money.

the level to which media speculation has impacted on the Lancs Police’s investigation is appalling. People treating it like it’s some kind of sick game.

plumduck · 16/02/2023 15:08

The family have asked people not to speculate

Wombatbum · 16/02/2023 15:13

I’ve just read an article with comments from family, basically saying the info was released because people were threatening to sell stories about her

Sally090807 · 16/02/2023 15:13

noblegiraffe · 16/02/2023 10:45

The batshit armchair detectives need to shut the fuck up and let the police get on with their jobs.

Baying because they police didn’t disclose that she was vulnerable, baying because they did. Demanding details then acting horrified when the details are given. Oh we didn’t mean it.

FFS get a new hobby. Buy an Agatha Christie. Leave the family alone.

Well said.

ChangedmynameagainforChristmas · 16/02/2023 15:14

When information gets drip fed like this people will always speculate. Perhaps if more correct information was given earlier this would have been helpful

Gillybob · 16/02/2023 15:14

So, the alcohol problems etc were related to the police by her husband when he called them in January?
Has anyone had an emotionally/psychologically abusive relationship? I liked a glass of wine most evenings after I'd put the children to bed but my ex would have said I had a problem. I rarely have a drink now, it wasn't the problem, he was.
Maybe she did leave, maybe she felt she had no choice but to disappear as her family also believed she had issues.
Or maybe she was very sadly suffering with an addiction, struggling and needed help and support.
This is the problem when too much info is released, it's natural to speculate!!

IClaudine · 16/02/2023 15:17

There is another thread where you can do your speculating. I don't think this is the place for it.

adriftabroad · 16/02/2023 15:19

@Gillybob agreed

WiIson · 16/02/2023 15:19

I think MN should delete the speculation threads for the sake of the family, and let the police get on with their job.

OnMyWayToSenility · 16/02/2023 15:22

Gillybob · 16/02/2023 15:14

So, the alcohol problems etc were related to the police by her husband when he called them in January?
Has anyone had an emotionally/psychologically abusive relationship? I liked a glass of wine most evenings after I'd put the children to bed but my ex would have said I had a problem. I rarely have a drink now, it wasn't the problem, he was.
Maybe she did leave, maybe she felt she had no choice but to disappear as her family also believed she had issues.
Or maybe she was very sadly suffering with an addiction, struggling and needed help and support.
This is the problem when too much info is released, it's natural to speculate!!

This really resonates with me too, as a woman who was gaslit by my ex for years!

It has victim blaming and gaslighting at its finest written all over it!

chandellina · 16/02/2023 15:22

Every time someone opens their mouth in this case it just gets more inappropriate --- now she has caused this whole crisis????

"Due to the peri menopause, Nikki suffered with significant side effects such as brain fog, restless sleep and was taking HRT to help but this was giving her intense headaches which caused Nikki to stop taking the HRT thinking that may have helped her but only ended up causing this crisis."

And what on earth does this mean - know the truth?

“The police know the truth about Nikki and now the public need to focus on finding her.”

FWIW I don't see how menopause or alcohol (and seems really irresponsible to link the two) are in way relevant unless they thought she self harmed or run away. How that ties in with supposedly having been though to fall in the river makes no sense either. She was arranging play dates and making plans for spa weekends in any case according to her friends and family's statements.

This will go down as a case study in poor police practice and even worse police communications. If my menopause or alcohol usage was ever mentioned while investigating my disappearance and a potential crime having been committed against me --- I would be horrified.

The only other explanation is the police are trying to throw their suspect off course with all this terrible communication.

Benjispruce4 · 16/02/2023 15:27

It’s relevant to the investigation but not to the press or the public.

Theluggage15 · 16/02/2023 15:29

Eve · 16/02/2023 14:45

wonder how much of an overlap of this band of armchair detectives/batshits/delusional army there is with the other 'armies' who are also medical, brain stem, ICU experts?

Oh yes definitely. Lots of similarities between the obsessives on these threads and the stupid ‘armies’ - knowing more than the experts, wildly speculating, accusing the workers of incompetence and hinting at other dark and hidden motives, low intelligence. Well done Mumsnet for encouraging this shit.

blueshoes · 16/02/2023 15:30

Catspyjamas17 · 16/02/2023 12:05

A lot of women struggle with alcohol, depression and the menopause. I don't see it as a taboo or reputation destroying, we aren't in the 1950s. I saw it as information regarding her disappearance, not victim blaming- we don't know that she was a victim of anything yet. However, I would be angry if this is presented as an excuse to stop looking by the police or looking for foul play. Depressed people can still be murdered.

Agree with this

GetUps · 16/02/2023 15:32

WiIson · 16/02/2023 15:19

I think MN should delete the speculation threads for the sake of the family, and let the police get on with their job.

Haven't the family caused much of the speculation?

Police said early on what they think has happened, but the family wouldn't accept it and have deliberately kept the conversation going.

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