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Who was more in the wrong at work today

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Safarigiraffe · 13/02/2023 19:29

Work in a daycare nursery in Kitchen however today at work me/chef did not provide a no dairy child with a no dairy meal as we didn’t notice him on dietary (our mistake there & we admitted that as well) and at the handover no mention from the room members was made & dietary sheet was signed to say all was good and well (all children have tent cards with their dietary requirements on them). They gave the no dairy child a dairy meal and the child reacted with a rash. Parents of child informed they not too happy but said they will keep a look out for him however if parents complain this could go into an investigation with not only us but room members suspended. So who is more at fault - kitchen, room or both the same.

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Exactfare · 13/02/2023 19:31

All of you - this is a massive fuck ive got kids with allergies and when we send them to childcare we expect them to be kept safe

FawnFrenchieMum · 13/02/2023 19:31

Hard to know without knowing the full procedures. However I would expect this to be formally logged and the procedures fully reviewed.
Stop worrying about whose fault it was and start making sure it can never happen again.

DrMarciaFieldstone · 13/02/2023 19:32

Sounds like all of you massively dropped the ball, tbh.

Concentrate on sorting it so it doesn’t happen again, not the blame game.

MrsBunnyEars · 13/02/2023 19:32

How dreadful. Who is more to blame is irrelevant, you need to make sure you never harm a child like that again.

OhClunge · 13/02/2023 19:34

You all need to take responsibility for it. Massive Cock up

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 13/02/2023 19:34

All of you. And I'd be grateful his reaction wasn't worse.

Poor kid.

watchfulwishes · 13/02/2023 19:34

Either the processes are weak, in which case no one individually to blame, or the processes are ok, in which case anyone who didn't follow them is to blame.

What matters is it not happening again.

What are the processes?

Nimbostratus100 · 13/02/2023 19:35

all of you

Redglitter · 13/02/2023 19:35

Who's more to blame really isn't what yoy should be focusing on. Putting something in place to ensure that never happens again is far more important

You were very lucky. The result of careless like that could have been devastating

Luredbyapomegranate · 13/02/2023 19:35

You just need to focus on making sure it doesn’t happen again and tightening procedures so it can’t, not trying to drop each other in it. If they are supposed to flag it and didn’t and you are supposed to read the cards and didn’t, you are all at fault - although ultimately you are in the kitchen so that’s your main area of responsibility so you don’t have the excuse you were distracted with something else.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 13/02/2023 19:35

Fuck that's awful. Thank god it was just a rash, hopefully the poor child doesn't get any more ill.

Why didn't you notice the child on the list? Who plates the food, the kitchen or the room staff?

NCcantthinkofanewone · 13/02/2023 19:36

All of you really

we didn’t notice him on dietary
What's the procedure for this

plumduck · 13/02/2023 19:36

Depending on the process you all funked up or the kitchen staff fucked up and maybe the nursery staff less so. It all depends on your procedures.

monicagellerbing · 13/02/2023 19:36

Jesus! Luckily he just got a rash, you all could have killed him. I'd be absolutely incandescent with rage if I was the parent and would be reporting to whoever oversees the nursery

QWE96 · 13/02/2023 19:37

What I'm most surprised by is how blasé you're being about this! Clearly you're all at all fault. They're in your care - it's your responsibility to ensure their safety...

CherLloydbyCherLloyd · 13/02/2023 19:37

My daughter has a dairy allergy and the same thing happened at her nursery, several times. Be prepared for the parents to take this further. Ultimately nobody lost their job when this happened to our daughter, but processes were changed.

It’s very frustrating for parents of dairy allergy children because often it’s written off as no big deal because (generally) they don’t require an epi pen, and there isn’t the same level of awareness/care that there is with other allergies eg nuts.

plumduck · 13/02/2023 19:37

NCcantthinkofanewone · 13/02/2023 19:36

All of you really

we didn’t notice him on dietary
What's the procedure for this

Yes. This is important. Why didn't you notice them. Were they not on the list? Did you not bother reading the list? Do both of you check the list.

You could have killed someone so I'd start by not trying to shift the blame and understanding how serious it could have been.

drunkornot · 13/02/2023 19:38

I would say it’s everyone’s fault. Food safety protocols need to be followed by everyone - it’s not okay to pass the buck or assume someone else will take responsibility. The child could become seriously unwell otherwise.

I wouldn’t look to blame but instead check your policies to see what went wrong here, and propose solutions to ensure this does not happen again.

Soubriquet · 13/02/2023 19:38

Everyone is at fault

CherLloydbyCherLloyd · 13/02/2023 19:39

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 13/02/2023 19:35

Fuck that's awful. Thank god it was just a rash, hopefully the poor child doesn't get any more ill.

Why didn't you notice the child on the list? Who plates the food, the kitchen or the room staff?

If the child has a rash now, I’d expect they are going to experience at least a few days of moderate abdominal discomfort. Depending on the type of dairy and the quantity, and the severity of their own reaction.

Cookiecreamppie · 13/02/2023 19:39

All to blame. But from my own experience working in a nursery I think the room staff are slightly more to blame. They had direct care of the child and should have known what that child's specific needs are, as there are other times other than lunch time that they may come into contact with dairy; having a drink of milk or making cakes, snack times etc. Kitchen staff wouldn't necessarily know each individual child's dietary requirements, just what meals they need to provide on what day.

PinkFrogss · 13/02/2023 19:40

Both made an error, I’d say kitchen made the bigger error as they can kill a child by not paying attention to allergies.

Taking responsibility always works better than playing the blame game

SnackyOnassis · 13/02/2023 19:41

I find it very concerning that your focus is on how to slither out of trouble here when that poor child was at risk. On this occasion it was a rash, so he was uncomfortable and couldn't communicate it to anyone because he's so little - never mind the staff or the parents, put yourself in his shoes. But it could have been so much worse.

I'd have liked to see at least a little concern in your post about the wellbeing of the child, I hope you do actually realise how serious this is and just haven't put it across well in your post.

Sunsetintheeast · 13/02/2023 19:43

My DDad had an allergic reaction that nearly killed him. Please understand that a swift jab of adrenaline doesn’t prevent the catastrophic damage that happens during such a reaction. His lungs were permanently scarred, he lost 15% function and when he (20 years later) caught covid he died. ALL of this can be traced to an anaphylactic reaction.

If you are serving food YOU are responsible. Please realise allergies are not stopped by epipens. Today you could have killed a child or had an impact that lasted a lifetime, you need to take this more seriously.

Suzi888 · 13/02/2023 19:45

monicagellerbing · 13/02/2023 19:36

Jesus! Luckily he just got a rash, you all could have killed him. I'd be absolutely incandescent with rage if I was the parent and would be reporting to whoever oversees the nursery

^ This
I would go nuclear if this happened to my child.