15 minute cities and the conspirators

[ivykaty44]

15 minute cities being organised to mean that you don't have to rely on a car to get to everything and can easily walk to many places therefore only have to use the car for longer journeys

the conspiracy theories im seeing on social media are suggesting its a world wide control formula and we will be fined for moving from one district to another.

www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2023/02/08/15-minute-city-conspiracy-theories-insane-says-15-minute-city-creator/?sh=121378916156

I'm wondering if the car manufactures are behind the conspiracy, as they would have a lot to lose if people live in places where they don't need a car and can just ave one family car or hire a car. Billions of sales could be lost if this takes off.

Some cities have gone car free - theculturetrip.com/europe/spain/articles/the-car-free-spanish-city/ and found after much objection, that it works well - especially for the elderly

Brexit has clearly been amazing for the farming sector. It's all booming and they're all so happy and never ever complain.

If all farmers moved into the cities, there would still be rural communities.

Rural communities aren't solely farms.

The WEF says that rural life is being brought to an end? I'm not sure they do.

I haven't read absolutely everything in detail, as it's so disturbing. But sometimes, they don't need to lay out something explicitly. Legislation (like what's being highlighted here) can indirectly affect the outcome

Yeah, I'll trust your reading between the lines.

Lines you haven't all read, and certainly not in detail.

True, but private cars and licenses could easily be banned and people 'encouraged' to move to the cities if there's no valid reason for them to be there

True, but private cars and licenses could easily be banned and people 'encouraged' to move to the cities if there's no valid reason for them to be there

But why? Who benefits from that? And how do you enforce it?

Have you people been watching a few too many dystopian movies?

I tried to read as much as possible on all topics, and always from the source

I was just answering your question as to whether they have explicitly said that they intend to ban rural life

And how do you enforce it?

That's quite easy. If you limit the number of times people living rurally can go into the city to access essential services (as I understand it's currently happening in Oxford) you are effectively forcing them to move back in or choose another cheaper, less desirable city to relocate to

people are not being limited to the number of times they access essential services, they can drive to one of the 5 park and rides and get a bus to essential services they require every single day if they want, twice a day if thats what they need to do

Many people cannot use public transport for various reaons (e.g. disability, illness) and rely on cars as was explained to you on your own thread. Have you read it?

Do those 5 P&R cater for those doing shift work? Or are they like the ones near me....shut at 10pm and a hefty fine if your car is left overnight?

Do those 5 P&R cater for those doing shift work? Or are they like the ones near me....shut at 10pm and a hefty fine if your car is left overnight

are you accessing essential services or going to work?

Why is this relevant? Both are equally necessary, surely?

Rural bus services tend to lead to a town or city. The Oxford scheme is making it financially prohibitive for people from nearby villages to travel to Oxford (a city with a housing shortage so it needs commuters to function). Oxford City Council have created this problem.

Many rural people relocate to cities as the populations densities mean there is better access to jobs and services. This has been happening as long as there have been cities and now I learn rather than natural economic and social movememnts it is a planned conspiracy? Fair play to the WEF for playing the long game.

Indeed, there are plenty of wealthy retirees from the city who spend their free time objecting to planning applications so that farmers can't even diversify.

Perhaps the poster is providing an essential service when going to work. Shift workers are often pretty essential, if they weren't the work could wait until the daytime with no need for unsocial hours to be paid at an enhanced rate. In any case, surely getting to work is essential for anyone. No point in being able to walk to the shops if you don't actually earn a living to buy food with.

Organic, voluntary relocations of some rural citizens is different from having to make a choice because access or movement is blocked so you have no other alternative

There are only 4 park and rides in Oxford - the fifth no longer has a regular or dedicated bus service. another one will not be able to access anywhere further east than the station for 6 months this year and next.

The carpark can be used overnight, but the buses stop completely overnight and go down to a half hourly service from 7pm. This can be difficult for shift workers, especially hospital staff who often have the minimum legal gap between shifts.

Sorry but that sounds like a paranoid delusion. It has no relation to anything that's happening in real life.

And I'll ask again... why? Who would benefit from it?

These people are fucking idiots. Ignore them.

I can only imagine what's going on in the minds of some people.

THEY'LL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF TIMES PEOPLE LIVING RURALLY CAN USE ESSENTIAL SERVICES!

Why?

I DON'T KNOW!!!!

Where have you heard this?

FACEBOOK!!!

Times are changing, we can't be stuck in 20th century was of life forever

What part of this is a delusion? In Oxford I understand they are allocating a limited number of passes per year to access into the city

Up to 100 day passes per year will be offered to residents and businesses affected by the changes, enabling them to travel through the filters without penalty

www.oxfordshirelive.co.uk/news/oxfordshire-news/oxfordshire-county-council-respond-viral-7900897

Here's the legal challenge and comments on a thread from residents

www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/23294005.oxford-traffic-filters-fundraiser-mount-legal-challenge/

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4693199-oxford-climate-lockdowns-and-15-minute-city-can-anyone-local-explain-their-views-on-this

I rarely use FB ad try to go to the source for news. What are you talking about?