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If you had the chance to move to the USA right now, would you?

324 replies

HiddenGiraffes · 06/02/2023 16:35

Context is it's a major city we've lived in before and liked, and we're currently in London, and like the area we live too. Some family in both countries.

I'm just curious if, given the opportunity to get out of the UK right now, people would consider the US a superior alternative.

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scatterolight · 06/02/2023 16:42

It's a big place. Some bits are shitholes and others are heaven. It depends where. If you get to choose the state / location then I'd live there in a heartbeat.

Everydayitsgettingcloser · 06/02/2023 16:43

We have always had the option - American citizenship and lots of family there, easily transferable careers. No.

I don't think the lifestyle is any better there - once you have accounted for the different tax system, higher living costs, medical costs - and culturally I feel more comfortable in the UK.

Lejuge28 · 06/02/2023 16:43

Nope. Wouldn't be able to relax when child at school, rubbish work/life balance when it comes to annual leave compared to here.

maddy68 · 06/02/2023 16:43

Probably. Although the USA would be my last choice. It's always good to live in different cultures. I've lived in a few countries and loved it

NocturnalClocks · 06/02/2023 16:43

Absolutely not!!

countrypunk · 06/02/2023 16:44

No fucking way! Guns, crazy gender identity ideology (worse in many places than it is here), no workers' rights, immoral healthcare system, totally corrupt political system. Just for starters.

Pinotpleasure · 06/02/2023 16:44

I could do so very easily as I have dual UK/US citizenship and moved back to England three years ago (from NJ).

I have no interest in moving back to the USA anytime soon and neither do any of my expat friends who’ve left the States.

BatshitBanshee · 06/02/2023 16:44

Not if I was offered a billion dollars and a home the size of the Yellowstone ranch. I would never, ever, ever put my kids in a situation where school shootings are a regular occurrence and god forbid you get sick because you're really, really going to pay for it. Not to mention the normalised racism.

HiddenGiraffes · 06/02/2023 16:44

scatterolight · 06/02/2023 16:42

It's a big place. Some bits are shitholes and others are heaven. It depends where. If you get to choose the state / location then I'd live there in a heartbeat.

Not sure why I'm being coy, it's DC and a lovely neighbourhood we've lived in before with family closer than they are in London.

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lunar1 · 06/02/2023 16:44

As a mixed race family, fuck no!

As a woman who thinks I have the right to bodily autonomy, also fuck no. I could go on.

Rowthe · 06/02/2023 16:44

Nope.

Other countries possibly.
But not the USA.

NeedToChangeName · 06/02/2023 16:45

Gun culture

Healthcare system

I wouldn't move there

HiddenGiraffes · 06/02/2023 16:45

BatshitBanshee · 06/02/2023 16:44

Not if I was offered a billion dollars and a home the size of the Yellowstone ranch. I would never, ever, ever put my kids in a situation where school shootings are a regular occurrence and god forbid you get sick because you're really, really going to pay for it. Not to mention the normalised racism.

See my personal experience of US healthcare is better than the US, it's just deeply unequal and unfair. I've also not had a condition that's so expensive to treat your insurance maxes out of course.

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Itisbetter · 06/02/2023 16:45

No! Guns, racism, lack of access to abortion, abysmal education, mind boggling fees for university….beautiful land but no way on earth.

HiddenGiraffes · 06/02/2023 16:46

Lejuge28 · 06/02/2023 16:43

Nope. Wouldn't be able to relax when child at school, rubbish work/life balance when it comes to annual leave compared to here.

Work/life balance and holiday entitlement is a solid point

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BatshitBanshee · 06/02/2023 16:46

lunar1 · 06/02/2023 16:44

As a mixed race family, fuck no!

As a woman who thinks I have the right to bodily autonomy, also fuck no. I could go on.

And also this - the eradication of body autonomy and women's rights. I couldn't live with myself if my DD was denied an abortion or died because of an ectopic pregnancy just because DH and I fancied a move. Fuck that.

Radiatorvalves · 06/02/2023 16:46

What about womens rights? In some states (following Roe v Wade) your body really isn’t your own. This isn’t about abortion, if you have a miscarriage for example getting treatment can be really tricky.

Amethyst6 · 06/02/2023 16:47

No, definitely not. I'm in the UK but want to move to Canada in the future

HiddenGiraffes · 06/02/2023 16:48

Radiatorvalves · 06/02/2023 16:46

What about womens rights? In some states (following Roe v Wade) your body really isn’t your own. This isn’t about abortion, if you have a miscarriage for example getting treatment can be really tricky.

We'd be living in Maryland which is solidly democrat so I guess I've not really considered that as a significant risk.

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AccidentallyRunToWindsor · 06/02/2023 16:48

Would rather shove wasps up my arse

Amethyst6 · 06/02/2023 16:50

@AccidentallyRunToWindsor 😂😂😂

Neededanewuserhandle · 06/02/2023 16:51

No way.

Travelfan2021 · 06/02/2023 16:52

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Beezknees · 06/02/2023 16:52

No chance. Not even if I was wealthy. Land of the free, only if you're a white man.

Partyandbullshit · 06/02/2023 16:54

It's interesting how the media shapes our opinions <breaking news!>

From the other side of the pond, the UK is currently the 5th ring of hell. No ambulances, no nurses or doctors, no teachers. People needing charitable donations of food to survive, and/or freezing to death because you can't heat your homes. All of Europe hates you and last year you were the political laughing stock within the EU. Yet the entire country came to a standstill for 4 days for the most opulent funeral of an old and privileged woman, with people standing in line for hours to just file past her coffin. Groceries cost insane amounts of money, your gasoline/petrol cost as much as coffee-shop coffee here. Insanely ridiculous competition to get your kids into decent schools, and you suffer floods, blizzards, heatwaves (and nobody has ac!). Not to mention your young kids dealing drugs on the way to/from school and the police singularly unable to do anything about it (whilst simultaneously weeding out corrupt officers from their ranks).

Of course, none of this is actually what the UK is really like, is it.

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