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AIBU to think we should be able to view a house even though we aren’t selling?

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HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 15:39

So a house has come up for sale near us, we’re in a position that it’s not the ideal time for us to buy BUT for the right price and property we could make it work. Our house isn’t on the market but if we wanted to go for something we would put it up straight away. We plan to look at selling and actively trying to move within the next 6-12 months. I want to go and see this house as I saw it a couple of years ago and fell in love with it. It’s come up again, but the estate agent has said that we can’t view it unless we proceed with putting our house up and then if it’s a no from us on the house we are viewing we would then need to get out of the contract to sell our house!

AIBU that this is ridiculous? We just want to see this one house on the off chance it’s the one? If we offer and they say no under the circumstance fair enough. Should we just walk away until we are definitely ready to move.

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HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 20:41

LittleRedYoshi · 06/02/2023 20:31

I got the impression the sellers were fine with our position it’s the EA who have said it’s pointless

How did you get that impression?

Because I asked about another property, that to be honest we potentially wanted to see for comparison - same price but different area, and the EA said absolutely not because that vendor wasn’t allowing anyone who wasn’t under offer to view. BUT dream house we could view but it was pointless because we weren’t on the market yet.

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GooseberryCinnamonYogurt · 06/02/2023 20:42

neverknowinglyunreasonable · 06/02/2023 15:44

If you just enjoying looking around houses for fun why not join the National Trust?

Haha

TolkiensFallow · 06/02/2023 20:42

I wouldn’t want you viewing my house. It takes time to get a house ready to view, it’s inconvenient to have to go out and ultimately your house might not sell for ages. I wouldn’t accept an offer from you so I wouldn’t let you view.

To be honest last time I sold I got to the point where I didn’t want people viewing unless they were under offer or cash buyers.

Blossomtoes · 06/02/2023 20:48

ultimately your house might not sell for ages.

Nor will yours if you don’t let people view it. 🤷‍♀️

NumberTheory · 06/02/2023 20:52

HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 20:41

Because I asked about another property, that to be honest we potentially wanted to see for comparison - same price but different area, and the EA said absolutely not because that vendor wasn’t allowing anyone who wasn’t under offer to view. BUT dream house we could view but it was pointless because we weren’t on the market yet.

This doesn’t mean the vendors are fine with your position. Your situation is two steps removed from having an offer. Not insisting on an offer isn’t the same as being okay with someone who doesn’t even have their house up yet. The estate agent may have told all their clients their standard policy is not to show to people who don’t have their house on the market and the vendor has just gone along with that. (But they may be trying to get your business out of it too).

EffortlessDesmond · 06/02/2023 21:04

There are lots of people who book viewings just as if they were going to see a National trust property. Including most of my neighbours who viewed the house we currently live in before we bought it. Most would book a viewing just to see how it's been updated in 25 years, but they still couldn't afford to buy it, any more than they couldn't then.

Me, I look at room dimensions/aspects and floor plans first, before wasting my time and the vendor's time.

Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:20

Firecarrier · 06/02/2023 19:35

I think people would be more understanding if you'd not already seen the house!

And as for those who said they would pretend to be a millionaire if they wanted to visit a childhood friends hope etc, words fail me, how inconsiderate can you be?!

Wouldn’t work anyway because EA’s (at least here) want to see proof of ability to fund a purchase if you have nothing to sell or are not on the market.

Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:21

Blossomtoes · 06/02/2023 20:48

ultimately your house might not sell for ages.

Nor will yours if you don’t let people view it. 🤷‍♀️

Which is pointless if they’re not in a position to buy it - or even offer on it.

Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:25

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 06/02/2023 19:47

what are you supposed to do if yours sells straight away but you haven’t found another house. Sounds ridiculous

You look on Rightmove and make a list of those you want to view. As soon as you accept an offer, you view. Your house doesn’t ‘sell straight away’. You get offers and when you’ve accepted you look at those you’ve shortlisted. That’s how it works.

Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:31

HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 19:50

Just to reiterate the crux of my problem is, we are genuinely serious about this house. We wouldn’t want to view if not BUT whether our house is on the market or not, we could go in and it not be right for us. It makes me nervous that our house would then be on the market, need to be taken off and we would potentially alienate one of the biggest estate agents in our area.

We aren’t keen to put our house on the market for 6-12 months and actively house hunt because houses in the price bracket of current dream house are rare, so we need more cash saved and we want to see what happens with mortgage rates.

If the vendors had restrictions then FAIR ENOUGH, I do understand where everyone is coming from but as I understand it they don’t. This is all coming from the EA who wants to get our house up before a singular viewing that might not come to anything.

In a dream scenario, we view, we love it, we offer, they accept, we list, we sell. LOVING LIFE.

Yeah. Dream on. You say you are serious about the house you want but then go on to say you’re not keen to put your own on the market for 6-12 months. How does that work ? If you put your house on the market, you are not obliged to sell for anything less than the asking price. You are not liable for EA fees unless they introduce a buyer who is prepared to pay the asking price and has the means to proceed. So you would not be ‘alienating’ the estate agent if you decided not to sell - just make sure you don’t accept offers below the valuation price. Stop making excuses for not having a clue how the market works (despite having bought before ) and wanting your own way, regardless of how much you inconvenience vendors.

Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:36

CantFindTheBeat · 06/02/2023 19:37

You're right, @cyclamenqueen

The house buying process in England is awful.

But yes, someone like OP who may genuinely be looking at one specific house is no more risk than someone under offer.

Not a question of risk - it’s about being able to proceed, and the OP is not.

Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:39

The last two years have made people rude and greedy. Perhaps you can ask the agent to value your house but make it clear you will only sell if you can buy the other one.

This wins the internet for today for the most ridiculous post !! For a start the EA who is selling your home may not be selling the one you want to buy - what then ? What if someone ups your offer on the house you want ? What if someone has sold their own home and is in a better position to make a valid offer on the house you want. How is it that people don’t know how the housing market works ????

Blondewithredlips · 06/02/2023 21:41

Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:31

Yeah. Dream on. You say you are serious about the house you want but then go on to say you’re not keen to put your own on the market for 6-12 months. How does that work ? If you put your house on the market, you are not obliged to sell for anything less than the asking price. You are not liable for EA fees unless they introduce a buyer who is prepared to pay the asking price and has the means to proceed. So you would not be ‘alienating’ the estate agent if you decided not to sell - just make sure you don’t accept offers below the valuation price. Stop making excuses for not having a clue how the market works (despite having bought before ) and wanting your own way, regardless of how much you inconvenience vendors.

This. OP comes across as very selfish.

HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 21:43

Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:31

Yeah. Dream on. You say you are serious about the house you want but then go on to say you’re not keen to put your own on the market for 6-12 months. How does that work ? If you put your house on the market, you are not obliged to sell for anything less than the asking price. You are not liable for EA fees unless they introduce a buyer who is prepared to pay the asking price and has the means to proceed. So you would not be ‘alienating’ the estate agent if you decided not to sell - just make sure you don’t accept offers below the valuation price. Stop making excuses for not having a clue how the market works (despite having bought before ) and wanting your own way, regardless of how much you inconvenience vendors.

Well I would obviously put our house on the market straight away if we liked the house we want to view and the vendors were open to the scenario?! Otherwise I would wait 6-12 months and then put our house on the market with hopefully a bigger budget to widen our options. Also, Im not making excuses I genuinely have no clue how it works, I’m not pretending I do. I came straight from my parents and bought an off plan new build 😂 try again with your insults.

You say I just want my ‘own way’ - literally loads of people on this thread have ended up with my ‘dream scenario’ with no inconvenience to anyone. Stop being dramatic.

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HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 21:43

Blondewithredlips · 06/02/2023 21:41

This. OP comes across as very selfish.

Ooh she’s back again! Why are you so obsessed with me?

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Blondewithredlips · 06/02/2023 21:48

HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 21:43

Ooh she’s back again! Why are you so obsessed with me?

Wow obsessed with you? 😂You really are a piece of work and your lack of insight is shocking. I am glad my house is not on the market.

Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:50

Then I would drop a note to the sellers with your details

Which they would screw up and throw in the bin. If it was that simple, EA’s would soon be out of business. If the vendor sold to you on that basis, the EA would still insist on payment because how else would you have known the house was for sale.

HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 21:52

Blondewithredlips · 06/02/2023 21:48

Wow obsessed with you? 😂You really are a piece of work and your lack of insight is shocking. I am glad my house is not on the market.

You are though aren’t you? You make little comments about me, then when I ask you to clarify some of your comments you disappear! Only to come scuttling back when someone else says something 😂

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Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:54

HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 21:43

Well I would obviously put our house on the market straight away if we liked the house we want to view and the vendors were open to the scenario?! Otherwise I would wait 6-12 months and then put our house on the market with hopefully a bigger budget to widen our options. Also, Im not making excuses I genuinely have no clue how it works, I’m not pretending I do. I came straight from my parents and bought an off plan new build 😂 try again with your insults.

You say I just want my ‘own way’ - literally loads of people on this thread have ended up with my ‘dream scenario’ with no inconvenience to anyone. Stop being dramatic.

Not being dramatic or trying to be insulting. I’ve sold several houses and come across a few buyers who try to pull the same shit as you. You can’t wait until you find a house you want before you put your own on the market. Well, you can, but you’ll be disappointed because by the time you get your own up and running and have an offer, the chances are the one you want will have been snapped up. And if you genuinely have no clue how it works, try doing a bit of research and finding out.

Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:56

Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:54

Not being dramatic or trying to be insulting. I’ve sold several houses and come across a few buyers who try to pull the same shit as you. You can’t wait until you find a house you want before you put your own on the market. Well, you can, but you’ll be disappointed because by the time you get your own up and running and have an offer, the chances are the one you want will have been snapped up. And if you genuinely have no clue how it works, try doing a bit of research and finding out.

Oh, and what happens if you put your own on the market, the house you want is sold to another buyer and in the meantime you have accepted an offer on your own. What do you do - pull out and bring down a whole chain, and increase conveyancing charges for everyone involved. Get real.

Blondewithredlips · 06/02/2023 21:58

HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 21:52

You are though aren’t you? You make little comments about me, then when I ask you to clarify some of your comments you disappear! Only to come scuttling back when someone else says something 😂

That post is just creepy and weird. I could say more but you have zero insight into why people don't agree with you.

littlelandlord7 · 06/02/2023 22:00

But you could list, find buyers and not find anything to buy. Equally messing people around. We are looking for a very specific thing that comes up every 2-3 years, there's no way we could list ours first.

Lots of varying factors but nothing is set in stone and often there are ways around getting a deal done.

HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 22:01

Rosscameasdoody · 06/02/2023 21:54

Not being dramatic or trying to be insulting. I’ve sold several houses and come across a few buyers who try to pull the same shit as you. You can’t wait until you find a house you want before you put your own on the market. Well, you can, but you’ll be disappointed because by the time you get your own up and running and have an offer, the chances are the one you want will have been snapped up. And if you genuinely have no clue how it works, try doing a bit of research and finding out.

‘Pull the same shit’ 😂😂 you’re right I do this for a laugh and actually have viewings EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND.

No but seriously, we have friends who have literally been in this scenario. Something just came up and they went for it and it worked out as have others on this thread. If it doesn’t work for us, it doesn’t and it’s a lesson learned! Just because you wouldn’t consider a buyer under these circumstances doesn’t mean others wouldn’t.

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HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 22:04

Blondewithredlips · 06/02/2023 21:58

That post is just creepy and weird. I could say more but you have zero insight into why people don't agree with you.

😂😂😂 literally go away, you just keep saying the same things and are incapable of defending or clarifying your point.

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Blondewithredlips · 06/02/2023 22:08

HolidayHun2020 · 06/02/2023 22:04

😂😂😂 literally go away, you just keep saying the same things and are incapable of defending or clarifying your point.

I don't need to "defend" anything. I am free to have a low opinion of your behaviour. I think you are selfish. Is that clear enough for you?

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