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Does anyone think it sounds likely my son has ASD?

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ThisMamaNeedsHelp · 05/02/2023 12:58

My son is 3. (Just)

I am concerned he is showing signs of being on the ASD spectrum and would appreciate any advice/insight from anyone who has experience of this as to whether his behaviour sounds typical of a child presenting with ASD or can be explained by his age?

Fine around other kids. Says he wants to “go and see the children” when talking about toddler group etc. Likes to say hello and try and join in with chasing games etc with his older sister and her friends. Not at nursery yet (can’t afford it until we get the government hours) but whenever we go to toddler groups he is fine around other kids. Happy being close to them and doesn’t have an issue with people being in his space, although rather than actual meaningful play it is more parallel play than anything at the moment.

He is very overfamiliar with strangers. My daughter was always very friendly and sociable as a toddler too, liked to chat away in shops etc, but my son will literally launch himself onto people and repeatedly tap their leg to say hello.
at home beginning to do some imaginary play although limited - will play with a toy aeroplane, say it’s flying in the sky, but when I ask where it’s going he doesn’t know, so flying in the sky is as far as we get.
went through a stage of lining toys up which worried me but doesn’t seem to do that any more.
can and does imitate me.
can point with one finger. answers to his name although it used to be a real effort but does that fine now.
eye contact good. Smiles and laughs, very affectionate with us all at home.
very clever - can count, knows all shapes and colours etc
Language skills - hard for me to know if he is “behind” or not as I can only really compare to my daughter who spoke very well very early. Some 3yr olds I know speak a lot better than him, but I also know some 3-4yr olds who I can’t always understand what they’re saying. My son is usually intelligible when speaking but his actual conversation skills aren’t great. He can answer questions, make statements, sing songs, knows what everything around him is etc but there’s not much actual conversation.
extremely physical/hyperactive - runs and runs, climbs, finds it hard to sit down quietly when he is “supposed to” ie during toddler classes can’t sit and listen to instructions, he will be running around a bit manic while the other toddlers sit down when asked to.

I have asked the GP to refer him for an assessment and was told that they would do this but I am looking at a 2 year wait to be seen.

going out of my mind with worry. Any advice as to whether this sounds like ASD appreciated hugely.

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4thonthe4th · 05/02/2023 13:23

ThisMamaNeedsHelp · 05/02/2023 13:20

@1stTimeMama he does often say phrases that make no sense at total random though - this morning he woke up and he said “dinosaurs have green eyes, number 100,000 mummy. Number 100,000. Dinosaurs have green eyes.”

He’s 3.

ThisMamaNeedsHelp · 05/02/2023 13:23

I’m not sure what to think. Also not one person I’ve told about this has seemed surprised which I think speaks volumes. Not one person has said “that’s ridiculous he clearly isn’t autistic”

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4thonthe4th · 05/02/2023 13:24

Can you list the things you think are signs of ASD @ThisMamaNeedsHelp and what others have said indicate ASD?

ThisMamaNeedsHelp · 05/02/2023 13:24

@4thonthe4th I think it was more the way he leapt on the doctors lap straight away and was calling him daddy.

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4thonthe4th · 05/02/2023 13:25

ThisMamaNeedsHelp · 05/02/2023 13:24

@4thonthe4th I think it was more the way he leapt on the doctors lap straight away and was calling him daddy.

Does he have his dad in his life?

1stTimeMama · 05/02/2023 13:26

I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. There's no way a GP, who meets a toddler for the first time, should suggest he could be autistic because he's inquisitive and friendly! There is literally not a single thing you've said that has made me think of autism, and so I'm not sure which bits has put it on your radar. From the sounds of things, his life is going to perfectly fine, there's nothing to be broken about, and as the parent of ND children, it is hard sometimes, but they're wonderful, loving, happy fulfilled children. They are not broken either.

Toomuchinfor · 05/02/2023 13:26

I really feel for you. Is there any way you can afford a private assessment?

ThisMamaNeedsHelp · 05/02/2023 13:27

@4thonthe4th
disinhibition towards male strangers/not reading their cues to back off from jumping on them.
speech - echolalia, random phrases repeated out of context.
CANNOT sit still, ever. I have no idea how I’m going to potty train him as he will not sit on it for more than literally 5 seconds even with bribes of bubbles/magic stars/anything!
lack of danger awareness ie shows no fear of running off, heights, large dogs barking, strangers

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Devilledmeg · 05/02/2023 13:28

"I have literally felt broken with worry about what his life is going to be like."

You are being ridiculous. You've described a perfectly normal toddler, god knows how you'd cope with a child who actually had developmental delays/was autistic

saltwater1985 · 05/02/2023 13:30

The thing is, there's no point worth g about it. He either is or isn't autistic. Just parent him as best you can and don't judge him by others' standards.

A diagnosis changes nothing (one diagnosed ASD child and two likely neurodiverse but not diagnosed)

ThisMamaNeedsHelp · 05/02/2023 13:30

@4thonthe4th yes his dad lives with us. Wouldn’t say he was very hands on if I’m honest but he is around, does cuddle him/rough and tumble with him.

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4thonthe4th · 05/02/2023 13:30

ThisMamaNeedsHelp · 05/02/2023 13:27

@4thonthe4th
disinhibition towards male strangers/not reading their cues to back off from jumping on them.
speech - echolalia, random phrases repeated out of context.
CANNOT sit still, ever. I have no idea how I’m going to potty train him as he will not sit on it for more than literally 5 seconds even with bribes of bubbles/magic stars/anything!
lack of danger awareness ie shows no fear of running off, heights, large dogs barking, strangers

So to sum up, your 3yo;
Doesn’t sit still for long
Isn’t scared of dogs barking
isn’t scared of heights
Doesn’t have proper road awareness
Isnt wary of strangers
says random things

Im trying to show you how normal all this is. You’re clearly worrying but I think you need to stop. At this age, nothing you have listed is cause for concern.

saltwater1985 · 05/02/2023 13:30

*no point worrying

It's not like you can return him and get a different child

NightIbble · 05/02/2023 13:30

I have an autistic 5 year old DS and honestly he doesn't sound like he has ASD just a normal toddler. Do you think your comparing him too much to your DD who you said was advanced?
I think your best off waiting to see if nursery pick up on anything, they will have seen loads of children so might have a better idea of what is with the range of 'normal'.

TheSnowyOwl · 05/02/2023 13:32

A GP isn’t qualified to say whether anyone has ASD or not.

Nothing you have said stands out as sounding like ASD to me based on my child. However, my eldest has ADHD and is very trusting and enthusiastic around a lot of strangers, and also can’t sit still. The rest of what you have said doesn’t relate to her behaviour though. My youngest sounds quite similar to your son and he is the NT one in our family.

ThisMamaNeedsHelp · 05/02/2023 13:34

i took him to a local nursery and did advise them of the GP agreeing he shows signs/being referred for assessment and they said he’s “very busy”
I think it’s something I’ve worried about for ages mainly because of the number obsession he used to have and the lining up of toys, these stopped but the cuddling strangers/jumping on them for piggybacks and calling them daddy wherever we go really worries me (genuinely I have never seen another kid do this and I spend every day at bloody soft play and toddler groups) then for the GP to say yes he does show signs and I will definitely refer him and for people that do actually know us to be totally unsurprised…….

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4thonthe4th · 05/02/2023 13:36

ThisMamaNeedsHelp · 05/02/2023 13:34

i took him to a local nursery and did advise them of the GP agreeing he shows signs/being referred for assessment and they said he’s “very busy”
I think it’s something I’ve worried about for ages mainly because of the number obsession he used to have and the lining up of toys, these stopped but the cuddling strangers/jumping on them for piggybacks and calling them daddy wherever we go really worries me (genuinely I have never seen another kid do this and I spend every day at bloody soft play and toddler groups) then for the GP to say yes he does show signs and I will definitely refer him and for people that do actually know us to be totally unsurprised…….

What number obsession?

Pinkypurplecloud · 05/02/2023 13:37

ThisMamaNeedsHelp · 05/02/2023 13:18

ALSO - when we went to the (male) GP, who we had never laid eyes on before, straight away my son was clambering on his lap and running about the room investigating everything, the GP said obviously this isn’t a diagnosis but he would agree he has ASD symptoms. It was already on my radar and since the GP said this I have literally felt broken with worry about what his life is going to be like.

Firstly I don’t think your son has glaring red flags for autism, he sounds like a fairly typical 3 year old except the disinhibition around strangers thing. Most GPs know very little about autism - mine told me my DS was definitely not autistic, despite a list of flags a mile long and a fairly speedy diagnosis by the qualified experts. Which isn’t to say your DS isn’t autistic, but I don’t think you need to panic.

Secondly, if he is autistic then it’s not necessarily some sort of disaster that you need to feel broken with worry about. Yes, some autistic people lead very difficult lives, but so do lots of NT people. Lots of autistic people are very happy and successful. My autistic child has some challenges and certainly causes me some (as do lots of his NT peers) but he’s happy, doing well in a mainstream school, has a gang of friends and is thriving. I have every reason to think he’ll lead an independent, happy and fulfilled adult life.

1stTimeMama · 05/02/2023 13:37

It doesn't seem like you're willing to listen to reason here, and almost like you're looking for things to flag up. Like a PP said, even if he is autistic, there's nothing that can be done to change it, so parent him as you are, follow his lead, as you would any child, and I wish you the best

Fladdermus · 05/02/2023 13:38

Your first post reads like a list of evidence of why your child doesn't have autism. Your subsequent posts include behaviours which could be autism but could also just be normal 3 year old behaviours. The only thing you can do is ask for an assessment by people qualified to know the difference.

2bazookas · 05/02/2023 13:42

He sounds perfectly normal.

You sound rather neurotic.

Stop worrying about him and get to grips with your own problem.

curlymam · 05/02/2023 13:43

Your son sounds EXACTLY like my almost 3 year old, and no one's ever mentioned he may have autism.

As PP have said, even if he is autistic it's absolutely fine. My DH is autistic (only diagnosed at 25 due to useless GPs) and he is a wonderful person. A fantastic and loving dad, has a very important job and is my best friend. He's had his struggles but we always say his autism helps him be the amazing person he is.

CMVB · 05/02/2023 13:45

I’d definitely say this sounds like normal behaviour. My son is 5 and has asd among other things and he was diagnosed at 2 as it was glaringly obvious that he was autistic. Nothing I’ve read here would make me think he’s anything other than an active little boy.

leithreas · 05/02/2023 13:46

Does autism or adhd run in either yours or you dhs family at all?

ElizaDoolittle77 · 05/02/2023 13:47

saltwater1985 · 05/02/2023 13:30

The thing is, there's no point worth g about it. He either is or isn't autistic. Just parent him as best you can and don't judge him by others' standards.

A diagnosis changes nothing (one diagnosed ASD child and two likely neurodiverse but not diagnosed)

Absolutely this!!! It really does not change anything! It doesn’t change who he is and people are certainly not defined by a diagnosis.