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Right to attend prom based on attendance at after school GCSE revision sessions- to think this sucks?

116 replies

MonitorL1zard · 02/02/2023 23:24

It’s amazing that the school provides after school GCSE revision classes but is it fair to attach the right to go to prom to attendance at these?

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Swannning · 02/02/2023 23:26

Well it's a good way to incentivise them to get extra revision in. Sounds like a win-win to me.

Don't see the problem

honeyytoast · 02/02/2023 23:27

I personally think that the only thing that should revoke the right to prom is completely unacceptable behaviour eg bullying

XenoBitch · 02/02/2023 23:27

I hate that Prom is even a thing nowadays.

lanthanum · 02/02/2023 23:28

DD's school offered a reduction on the ticket price, which might be a better system.

AFS1 · 02/02/2023 23:28

YANBU. I would have hated going to organises revision sessions when I was at school. I wanted to revise in my own room, usually sprawled out on my bed. It seems totally unfair to link going to the prom with attendance at extracurricular revision sessions.

XanaduKira · 02/02/2023 23:29

I don't think it's a bad idea - good way to incentivise them to do extra study as prom is a privilege after all.

WinnieFosterReads · 02/02/2023 23:31

It disadvantages DCs with chaotic family lives or young carers, etc. I don't think anything should be dependent on out of school activities.

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 02/02/2023 23:31

It is bizarre and unnecessary for gcse age children in the UK to go to "prom". Really silly.

SalmonEile · 02/02/2023 23:32

its assuming a lot
say a student has a sibling in the school and can only arrange collection at one time a day how does that work?
Or if not that there’s appropriate public transport the student/family can afford ?

imo if it’s so important that the kids attend extra revision then there’s something wrong with the way it’s being taught in the first place

honeyytoast · 02/02/2023 23:33

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 02/02/2023 23:31

It is bizarre and unnecessary for gcse age children in the UK to go to "prom". Really silly.

I don’t think it’s bizarre nor unnecessary. I went in 2017 and really enjoyed it. It doesn’t have to be a completely ott, Americanised affair, it’s just a chance to dress up and dance with friends and something to look forward to when exams are over.

Doesn’t have to to be expensive either. I enjoyed a day shopping in the sales with my mum almost as much as the actual event lol

RampantIvy · 02/02/2023 23:34

WinnieFosterReads · 02/02/2023 23:31

It disadvantages DCs with chaotic family lives or young carers, etc. I don't think anything should be dependent on out of school activities.

On the other hand it could be the opposite. It depends on the "chaos" at home.

deeperthanallroses · 02/02/2023 23:35

SalmonEile · 02/02/2023 23:32

its assuming a lot
say a student has a sibling in the school and can only arrange collection at one time a day how does that work?
Or if not that there’s appropriate public transport the student/family can afford ?

imo if it’s so important that the kids attend extra revision then there’s something wrong with the way it’s being taught in the first place

These situations must be pretty unusual, gcse students are old enough to catch pt, ask a friend for a lift since everyone else is at the session too. Im sure schools could deal with genuine hardship cases.
I like this approach- why shouldn’t the ones who just want to party be incentivised to attend the study sessions?

ConsuelaHammock · 02/02/2023 23:35

WinnieFosterReads · 02/02/2023 23:31

It disadvantages DCs with chaotic family lives or young carers, etc. I don't think anything should be dependent on out of school activities.

This. Or those who need to work. It’s ridiculous and I’d complain.

MonitorL1zard · 02/02/2023 23:37

lanthanum · 02/02/2023 23:28

DD's school offered a reduction on the ticket price, which might be a better system.

I like this idea better.

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Needmorelego · 02/02/2023 23:39

If there had been a prom like the ones they have now when I was at school I wouldn't have wanted to go. I would have hated going to something like that. Totally not my thing.
So what is the 'punishment' for those who have zero interest in going to prom if they don't go to these sessions?

MonitorL1zard · 02/02/2023 23:40

AFS1 · 02/02/2023 23:28

YANBU. I would have hated going to organises revision sessions when I was at school. I wanted to revise in my own room, usually sprawled out on my bed. It seems totally unfair to link going to the prom with attendance at extracurricular revision sessions.

These are my thoughts too. Some people have had enough at the end of a school day and would prefer to revise alone at home.

Attaching prom to revision just adds a different pressure.

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AliceMcK · 02/02/2023 23:45

Not fairs to kids who can’t attend for various reasons, clubs activities, work, family priorities…

RampantIvy · 02/02/2023 23:46

DD's old school was in a rural market town. Once the school buses left at 3pm there were no public transport options for many of the pupils, so her school didn't lay on any compulsory after school revision sessions.

There was no study leave until the third week of exams, so they did revision sessions in between the exams.

It suited DD better to revise at home, and after the spring bank half term week I don't think the school checked attendance and on days I wasn't working I could pick her up from school after an exam to revise from home.

SalmonEile · 02/02/2023 23:48

deeperthanallroses · 02/02/2023 23:35

These situations must be pretty unusual, gcse students are old enough to catch pt, ask a friend for a lift since everyone else is at the session too. Im sure schools could deal with genuine hardship cases.
I like this approach- why shouldn’t the ones who just want to party be incentivised to attend the study sessions?

They might be pretty unusual, they might not

they might not have a friend they can ask - there’s threads on here regularly from parents who are sick of giving lifts to kids who’s parents can’t reciprocate

there might not be appropriate public transport and
even if there is why should a student/family be penalized for not wanting to pay out for public transport when the parent is collecting a younger sibling an hour earlier (for example) and the student isn’t one who ‘just wants to party’ and perfectly capable of studying at home

im not being argumentative im just assuming the above scenario is a reality for some otherwise the OP wouldn’t be posting

ChicCroissant · 02/02/2023 23:48

DD's school have offered a day trip dependant on general attendance and the attendance at the extra lessons. I can't remember if it applies to Prom too, probably not. The extra lessons during and after school and the subsequent lack of breaks are likely to lead to more illness IMO, so it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out!

coralgeo · 02/02/2023 23:51

Discriminatory against those who study better at home.

Tygertiger · 02/02/2023 23:53

Prom - or leavers’ do, whatever we want to call it - if schools have it, then it is a rite of passage for the pupils and something they will always remember. It should be open to all with no exceptions except for serious bullies and not dangled like a carrot or used as a threat. It certainly shouldn’t be linked to the school’s Progress 8 score as is going on here.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/02/2023 23:55

Bad idea for all the reasons already mentioned, young carers were who came to my mind. Though they might not be able to go to a prom anyway.

Soontobe60 · 02/02/2023 23:57

coralgeo · 02/02/2023 23:51

Discriminatory against those who study better at home.

Also discriminatory against children from less affluent families. And don’t say that it doesn’t have to cost a lot. Because who wants to turn up in a borrowed frock, home made fake tan, stick on nails and in your mum’s 10 year old car when the cool crowd get to have a beauty package, £250 frock, hair extensions and a limo ride.
it’s absolutely cringe.

Thatiswild · 03/02/2023 00:04

@deeperthanallroses they're not unusual unfortunately.

Where we live there are children whose parents are having to make the decision as to which days to send them in on the bus depending on timetable and subjects as they can’t afford to pay for public transport every day. As a school governor I know this is genuine and it’s not just a couple of kids. Accessibility is an huge problem in secondary schools. Our school will try to help anyone in this situation but that is only if they actually identify this - lots of people don’t want to admit that they’re in this situation. It’s distressing but it’s true.

If there is only a free (to those eligible) school bus at 3 then they’re already missing out on enough by having no transport home. Our school fund a later bus so that no one is excluded from after school clubs on the basis of transport, but we are very fortunate to have an inclusive school who take their community’s needs seriously.

Several of my child’s friends travel on two non school buses home to an empty house, they may not feel comfortable doing that later in the evening at the age of 11.

Incentivising study is great but I think this type of idea excludes too many students and could actually make their revision less effective - yanbu.

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