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AIBU?

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To ask DD to attend Guides for a bit longer

66 replies

GuidedOrUnguided · 02/02/2023 18:39

DD is in yr7 and attended Rainbows. She then had to wait a year before she got a chance to join Guides ( she started in September). I asked her if i could try another section of guides out of area but she wanted to attend this one. ( Adding this bit to show how keen she was).

She does extra curricular activities three days a week at school plus a music class on Saturday so she keeps busy. She also attends youth groups two evenings a week ( all her choice. Writing it down makes it seem like quite a lot )

She’s not attended for three consecutive weeks due to being busy at school, illness and family visit. At Guides, she knows a couple of girls from her primary who attend a different secondary school (DD’s school is out of area).

Quite a few of the girls spend the session on their phones, from what i gather so it looks like some are not engaged. Apart from the girls from primary, she hasn’t really made a friend but it’s early days, i suppose.

She’s now saying she doesn’t want to attend.
She’s very sensible and loves getting involved in trying various activities so i usually let her decide but i’m struggling on this because it’s Guides!

I’m tempted to say attend till the end of this term and see how you feel. AIBU?

If she wants to go back, she might have to wait another year!

Yabu- Let her choose to stop now
Yanbu - Let her wait till end of the term to decide

OP posts:
FirstnameSuesecondnamePerb · 02/02/2023 20:45

Like everything Guides is a mixed bag.
My youngest adored it and is now into Rangers and a young leader.
We have a rule that you can't give up just cos of a bad week. Suggest she goes to another couple then she can stop if she doesn't click.

Motheranddaughter · 02/02/2023 20:50

I felt like that when mine were younger but honestly,now they are older teens I realise that it really doesn’t matter
Let her decide

OwlOfBrown · 02/02/2023 20:51

Let her leave now. Save her unit (or you, depending on how your local unit does things) the £50-ish annual membership fee which is about to be due.

She might enjoy scouts. Different groups suit different people. DD loved Guides but she was in a big friendship group, and in an outdoorsy busy unit - lots of camping, watersports, residential, PGL style trips, trips abroad.

I'm absolutely overrun with Brownies in my unit. If only some of the ones on my waiting list would go to Cubs but no, they want to stay on the waiting list for months and months instead.

BogRollBOGOF · 02/02/2023 20:54

I think giving until the end of term is reasonable to make sure it's a firm decision.

Once you've been taken of GO (Guiding Organiser) the record ends, so if you re-join, the badges/ time in Guiding etc won't resume from where you left off.

The Scouting programme tends to be more practical. In both organisations it will depend on the leaders as to how active the unit is, but at a basic level, the Scouting programme is more doing, and Guiding more discussing and issues based.

LostMySocks · 02/02/2023 20:55

I'm a Guide leader. I'd like to think we have a balanced programme and the girls all seem engaged and happy but it can depend on the unit. Lots of us struggled with the new program and just as we were getting our mojo there was lockdown. But we're now getting girls bringing their friends.
Some units will suit different Guides. And this one sounds like perhaps it's not quite what you or you DD want. The important thing is that she has alternative activities and isn't dropping out to mope around.
Why not chat to the leader? Might also be worth checking what is planned in the summer when all the outdoor stuff such as cook outs and camping starts.
I can also see the usual pike on about trans identifying boys. In reality I've only heard of one in our region and the Scouts have exactly the same rules.

OwlOfBrown · 02/02/2023 20:58

Once you've been taken of GO (Guiding Organiser) the record ends, so if you re-join, the badges/ time in Guiding etc won't resume from where you left off.

That's not strictly true. The information is there, it's just harder to find, but it can be (laboriously) recreated.

underneaththeash · 02/02/2023 20:58

If she doesn't enjoy it let her leave as with any activity.

I run brownies - I (as it's my group and responsible for it) do not have any blokes in it. We do "quieter" activities than the cubs as in they can hear me speak - this term - so 4 sessions. we've done night hike, smores/firecraft session on UK animals and a treasure hunt around the village.

My DS16 - who loves cubs, is a young leader and he runs quite a lot of it. Their sessions are less fun, but they do more camps!

BridieConvert · 02/02/2023 20:59

YABU

I HATED Guides! If she doesn't want to go, don't force her she will resent you for it. I'm still bitter my mum & dad made me go to ballet and I stopped that when I was 8!

OwlOfBrown · 02/02/2023 21:00

OwlOfBrown · 02/02/2023 20:58

Once you've been taken of GO (Guiding Organiser) the record ends, so if you re-join, the badges/ time in Guiding etc won't resume from where you left off.

That's not strictly true. The information is there, it's just harder to find, but it can be (laboriously) recreated.

And time in Guiding will resume where it left off.

Starlightstarbright1 · 02/02/2023 21:02

My mum wouldn't let me leave guides when my friends did. So i used to meet my mates drink and smoke.. obviously many years ago but i was done.

Luredbyapomegranate · 02/02/2023 21:03

I’d try a different one. Scouts always seem to do more fun stuff

Neverplayleapfrogwithmrpipes · 02/02/2023 21:07

Do any of her new school friends go to a different unit?
It may be worth asking the leader to suggest a unit closer to her school. Having friends there makes such a difference.

FabFitFifties · 02/02/2023 21:10

Suggest scouts - no chance of boredom or being allowed on your phone there! Otherwise, let her stop, she does plenty.

Ireallydohope · 02/02/2023 21:13

I loved brownies but left Guides after 2 weeks because I'd grown out of it

It's a bit embarrassing once you've started secondary school tbh

PuttingDownRoots · 02/02/2023 21:18

I loved my time at guides. We went to the Netherlands for 2 weeks sailing for example (with the Dutch sea scouts... that was the main attraction!) Not all groups are rubbish...

But that one isn't working for that girl. Thats what matters...

BankOfDave · 02/02/2023 21:25

Scouts shooting air rifles one week and Guides doing chocolate tasting one week is not a good comparison.

Is it not ok for ‘boys’ to do chocolate tasting? Should they only be taught from a young age to engage with guns?

That comment is every bit as stereotyping of Scouts/boys as it is for Guides/girls - ie. nonsense.

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