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To think I don't need to look at the rota when I'm not due in?

65 replies

FinGizz · 01/02/2023 18:19

Pretty pissed off really. And I don't think I'm on the wrong but hell let's let MN decide.

I work 3 part time jobs

2 of then have standardised regular hours each week.

The third is very ad hoc, and I give my availability 8 weeks in advance. Think pop up hospitality.

At the end of December I told the newish supervisor at AdHoc that I was available for an event on January 6th 7th 8th and then free any Fri/Sat/Sun in February except the first weekend as we're away.

The supervisor replied thanks and she'd let me know my shifts. Interestingly my presence hasn't been required since she started the responsibility for rotas in October.i also haven't heard from her since I messaged with my availability.

I don't rely on this role for income; I do it because it's so much fun and the tips can be amazing - distributed through payroll and even after tax they're still worth it.

After giving supervisor my availability for Jan Feb, I saw I wasn't needed first weekend of Jan and them muted the AdHoc WhatsApp chat. Rotas are added to group chat on Mondays for that week. (It's rare the pop up operates Monday - Weds).

Last Friday lunchtime I had a text from AdHoc owner asking me to bring something specific for the event that evening. I didn't see text till 4pm - and responded that I wasn't available and the supervisor knew my availability.

I was told I'd let my colleagues and the company down with an hour's notice when the rota had been up for 4 days - plenty of time for me to let AdHoc Owner know.

I've now had a message to say the owner and supervisor would like some time with me when I'm next in to talk about the incident.

YABU -of course you should check the rota.

YANBU - no the rota is irrelevant when you're not due in.

OP posts:
DDivaStar · 01/02/2023 18:42

I get why you didn't re check the rota. But yes it probably is a good idea to glance it over, especially when shifts are so adhoc.

Nutrigrainygoodness · 01/02/2023 18:45

I dont think you were being unreasonable in not checking it. You said these are the dates I can work - do as you wish.
But I always check my rota-even though I work set days, just incase I've been put in wrong or for an extra day that they may or may not have told me about 🙄

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 01/02/2023 18:47

Personally I would always check the rota on a regular basis if I didn't have set/standardised hours.

TinySaltLick · 01/02/2023 18:47

Can't quite work out if the day was when you were or were not available.

I think even if the latter - I probably would scan as a fail safe as these things get overlooked.

Not really your fault but is avoidable so I can see why is mildly irritating as could have been addressed reasonably easily

1982mommaof4 · 01/02/2023 18:48

YANBU.. I would check going forward

PuppyMonkey · 01/02/2023 18:52

Have you still got your messages where you stated your availability and her replies saying “okay” or whatever? Just forward those?

ForestLilac · 01/02/2023 18:53

You said (in writing?) when you were/weren’t available. She fucked up 🤷‍♀️

Crumpetdisappointment · 01/02/2023 18:55

how else would you know when they want you?

welshpolarbear · 01/02/2023 18:56

I think if this was me I'd feel like I was wrong because I should have checked just incase.

No harm in taking a quick look in future because as you've found out, other people make errors.

TimeForMeToF1y · 01/02/2023 18:57

I wouldn't mute a work whatsapp group, how would you usually be informed about changes or requeats for people to cover shifts for sickness or whatever?

Emmamoo89 · 01/02/2023 18:58

Yanbu. She fucked up

PuppyMonkey · 01/02/2023 19:00

Crumpetdisappointment · 01/02/2023 18:55

how else would you know when they want you?

She told them 8 weeks in advance she wasn’t going to be available till February.

RandomMess · 01/02/2023 19:00

The op said she wasn't available apart from early January then weekends after 8th Feb.

Why would she check the weeks she said she WASN'T available?

greenspaces4peace · 01/02/2023 19:01

your available dates are your available dates anything outside those dates are not your issue. communication seems poor. i would put it on them to improve their staff communication.

lieselotte · 01/02/2023 19:04

TimeForMeToF1y · 01/02/2023 18:57

I wouldn't mute a work whatsapp group, how would you usually be informed about changes or requeats for people to cover shifts for sickness or whatever?

Why would you want to get notifications from work every 5 minutes?

I don't think you were wrong OP. But it might be an idea to check in future.

I don't know how they can blame you - you gave your dates. If they wanted you to work a day you weren't available, they should have checked with you. Their mess-up, not yours.

CornishIrish · 01/02/2023 19:05

Don’t they ask you to confirm back? That’s weird. I would ask for an acknowledgment in case of sickness/holidays a million reasons. Very passive way to run what are effectively bookings not a stable rota:

Crumpetdisappointment · 01/02/2023 19:07

they shouldnt have assumed you would agree to shifts op.

TimeForMeToF1y · 01/02/2023 19:08

lieselotte · 01/02/2023 19:04

Why would you want to get notifications from work every 5 minutes?

I don't think you were wrong OP. But it might be an idea to check in future.

I don't know how they can blame you - you gave your dates. If they wanted you to work a day you weren't available, they should have checked with you. Their mess-up, not yours.

Where does it say there are posts every 5 minutes?

Luana1 · 01/02/2023 19:08

Forward your message (where you stated your availability to your supervisor) to the business owner before your meeting so he/she can see you were explicitly clear regarding your availability. I would say YABU to mute the chat though, there could be info on it non rota related that you'd be better off knowing surely?

35965a · 01/02/2023 19:09

You shouldn’t have to check obviously as you gave your availability, but I would just in case because some people are stupid/forgetful or just don’t care and will end up making mistakes.

BiddyPop · 01/02/2023 19:14

Yanbu

LadyHarmby · 01/02/2023 19:15

YANBU. I don’t know why they think you would be checking the rota on weeks you’ve said you’re not available to work.

Badbudgeter · 01/02/2023 19:15

I’d mute work groups because you don’t need to know what everyone is doing every five minutes. I’d simply forward the messages where you told supervisor your availability. You don’t check the rota when you are unavailable.

I suspect the supervisor has forgotten that you said when you were available and scheduled you. They are now involved in arse covering and blaming you for not checking rather than accepting responsibility for getting your availability wrong.

I’d expect to be messaged / called / emailed if someone wanted me to do a shift where I’d said I was unavailable.

jellybe · 01/02/2023 19:15

I wouldn't be checking the rota. It isn't on you to catch their mistakes. You made it very clear when you could/ couldn't work and the person who does the rota screwed up. I'd politely point this out to them and the boss and then see what happens.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 01/02/2023 19:50

So they put you on when you said you were not available? Then no, why would you?

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