To think I don't need to look at the rota when I'm not due in?

[FinGizz]

Pretty pissed off really. And I don't think I'm on the wrong but hell let's let MN decide.

I work 3 part time jobs

2 of then have standardised regular hours each week.

The third is very ad hoc, and I give my availability 8 weeks in advance. Think pop up hospitality.

At the end of December I told the newish supervisor at AdHoc that I was available for an event on January 6th 7th 8th and then free any Fri/Sat/Sun in February except the first weekend as we're away.

The supervisor replied thanks and she'd let me know my shifts. Interestingly my presence hasn't been required since she started the responsibility for rotas in October.i also haven't heard from her since I messaged with my availability.

I don't rely on this role for income; I do it because it's so much fun and the tips can be amazing - distributed through payroll and even after tax they're still worth it.

After giving supervisor my availability for Jan Feb, I saw I wasn't needed first weekend of Jan and them muted the AdHoc WhatsApp chat. Rotas are added to group chat on Mondays for that week. (It's rare the pop up operates Monday - Weds).

Last Friday lunchtime I had a text from AdHoc owner asking me to bring something specific for the event that evening. I didn't see text till 4pm - and responded that I wasn't available and the supervisor knew my availability.

I was told I'd let my colleagues and the company down with an hour's notice when the rota had been up for 4 days - plenty of time for me to let AdHoc Owner know.

I've now had a message to say the owner and supervisor would like some time with me when I'm next in to talk about the incident.

YABU -of course you should check the rota.

YANBU - no the rota is irrelevant when you're not due in.

I’d send the screenshots!
hi owner, attached are the screenshots where I said my availability, and I checked the rota for date x. I’m not sure what there is to discuss - it’s not feasible we all check daily in case we’ve been scheduled on at zero notice, and we shouldn’t be scheduled for times we’ve explicitly said we aren’t available. Is this discussion just to agree that the process broke in this instance and we will stick to it in the future?

I don’t know if it’s worth adding that I haven’t been scheduled for 4 months now so I am starting to wonder if I am being given an unsubtle hint. Is there anything I should know? in which case I’m very keen to be able to discuss it as I’ve had no idea! See you Thursday :)

If it’s ad hoc hours, and you gave your supervisor your availability, then i wouldn’t be checking my rota outside of the hours I had stated I was available.

I can understand the frustration though. Explain to the boss that you had clearly given your availability, supervisor had obviously made a mistake, and because you work ad hoc, you didn’t check outside of your available hours.
Might be worth checking your rota in future, so if this happens again you can alert them to the fact it’s an error.

And this is why people shouldn't rely on what apps chats etc for things as important as this.

She should email people weekly with rotas and then email requests to work extra or message directly.

And if you'd already said you weren't available then she can't really expect you to have checked a rota you've already said you can't be on

I also agree with above posters that it's worth you pointing out you hadn't been scheduled for 4 months during times you said you were available so it hadn't occurred to you to check a rota for a time you'd explicitly stated you weren't!

Then have the conversation that if your not going to be needed for months on end then it would be good for them to inform you because you will look at other companies to work and hoc hours for because you enjoy the work.

Your last paragraph is really food for thought.

If you've told her you are available, and the rotas come out every Monday, surely you just check every Monday you've said you are free that coming weekend.

If I was a supervisor relying on casual/very part time staff for cover, I wouldn’t leave it at posting a rota on a WhatsApp group. I’d want positive confirmation that people had seen it and would be turning up, and if I didn’t get it by a couple of days beforehand, I’d be actively chasing them. She fucked up.

I've now had a message to say the owner and supervisor would like some time with me when I'm next in to talk about the incident.

I'd respond with 'No need, I told X I wasn't available until Feb 6th. I haven't had work for 4 months so why would I check any rota on weeks I'm not even in? Maybe the supervisor needs some training or a better system of allocating shifts if she doesn't understand people cannot be in when they are not in?'

YANBU

But generally I'm always checking even when I'm off, I'm very attentive to detail.

But no, she shouldn't have expected you to check it.

Yes

This

I've had something a little bit like this. A new manager joined the restaurant I worked in. I worked part-time around my nursery age dc and 6 mo baby, so I could only do evenings and weekends. New manager was a massive cock in many ways, but one day I got a call in the middle of a weekday saying I hadn't turned up for my shift... Then I went to another shift and wasn't needed. He was basically a bit of an idiot and couldn't work out how to rota all the part-time people. So, what did he do next? He fired all of us! All the part-time staff. Absolute bellend. I couldn't do anything about it as I was on a zero hours contract. The worst thing was, he didn't even phone us himself, but got his assitant to do it. Poor woman was so nervous and had got some pretty upset staff when she'd fired the others, so I had to be really nice to her about it.

Anyway, he didn't last long in the job.

YANBU. You said you weren't available. They should not have rota'd you on and it was not your fault that you were not there, as you had already said you would not be. I don't know what the company is like, but hopefully they will see sense.

@Tangerinie

Anyway, he didn't last long in the job.

So did you/the other part time staff get your old jobs back? 🌹

This.

And based on how you describe AdHoc job YANBU to mute WhatsApp either. My employer operates 7 days a week, 365 days a year, up to 16+ hours a day. I work 9-5, Monday-Friday. No way am I having my phone ping when I’m not working.

Also I agree with PP that said Considering she hasn't put you on for months I don't think it's a mistake she put you on when you had said you weren't available.

I had moved on by then to a lovely place, so I didn't need it back. I don't know about the others.

He was such a twat though. He proudly told us how in his previous job he had called all the female waiting staff by the same name 🙄 (the same name as his gf). I was glad when they fired me tbh as didn't want to work for him

I am a supervisor who creates rotas for a team and it would absolutely be on me if I scheduled someone to work when they weren't available. I wouldn't expect people to check each day of a rota to make sure I hadn't made a mistake.

You've done nothing wrong OP. I didn't catch if you'd given your availability in writing but I hope so, it will be useful when you are pulled in for this "chat".