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To NOT leave rented house when I said I would?

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WaitingForLifeToGetEasier · 29/01/2023 12:11

Been in current rented house for 9 years. Landlord is a company with 30+ properties.

Tenancy is generally renewed every year as LL puts rent up.

Last year, less than 6 months into our latest year long tenancy agreement, an estate agent contacted me out of the blue saying he'd been instructed to sell the property so I needed to agree to a time for them to value and take photos as well for viewings.

I was shocked as LL has not said anything and it transpired that the letting agent has added a 6 month break clause into the tenancy agreement. There had never been one In previous agreements and I wasn't made aware.

I made it clear i was not going to allow anyone in the property until the end of the agreement and if the landlord wanted to sell, I'd leave at that time.

Tenancy is up in early March. I had expected to get a Section 21 in early January but nothing.

We have been looking but properties are either not available anymore or agent doesn't get back to us so have not found a property yet. Rents seem to have gone up £3-400 a month which is going to be impossible.

Not sure if LL is just expecting us to leave or what but I am not intending to leave in early March and will stay as long as possible - await section 21 etc.

AIBU?

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Passivhaus · 29/01/2023 13:05

Landlords are the worst leaches in society. Stay put until you get something else.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 29/01/2023 13:06

WelliesandWine88 · 29/01/2023 13:04

I'm sure many wiill disagree...but imo yes you should leave.
This may be your 'home' but it's not your house... legally it's not your property. You've been given adequate notice.
Why make everyone's life more difficult, including your own because you certainly won't get a reference, which you'll need to secure a new place.....and at the end of it all, you still have to leave no matter how much of a fyas you make...

OP hasn’t been given any notice to leave.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 29/01/2023 13:06

Toddlerteaplease · 29/01/2023 13:05

Why on earth do people think they have a right to stay in a rented property, and refuse viewings etc. The landlord has every right to sell. And not allowing viewings is just petty. It's not your house.

It’s her home. Why would she want people looking round it?

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 29/01/2023 13:07

Can just one person please tell me where OP has been given notice to leave?

Given the vitriol she’s received for being a hORriBle PerSOn I’m sure someone who feels strongly about a stranger can fill me in on the details?

WaitingForLifeToGetEasier · 29/01/2023 13:07

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Wow. Embarrassing!

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TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 29/01/2023 13:08

I think everyone must be hungover, how are so many people being so unbelievably thick?

WelliesandWine88 · 29/01/2023 13:08

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 29/01/2023 13:06

OP hasn’t been given any notice to leave.

Ok, my bad ...so they can contact the agent and arrange the leaving date.. there's no reason to be awkward and refuse viewings

Passivhaus · 29/01/2023 13:09

WaitingForLifeToGetEasier · 29/01/2023 13:07

Wow. Embarrassing!

It's not even their house it's just an investment. As house is to live in not make money from.

StPaulandTheBrokenBones · 29/01/2023 13:10

I can only assume some posters on this thread cannot read or have absolutely no knowledge of the law whatsoever.

The OP has not been served with a S21. The LL has not served notice. Why on earth would the OP leave her home voluntarily without being served with the correct notice? For all she knows the LL has changed their plans to sell.

But the OP should contact their LL (not the agent) to find out what is going on. I would want to know, from the owner of the property, where I stood and if they were planning on selling up.

Casilero · 29/01/2023 13:10

If you've not been given the correct notice and just left at the break time, wouldn't you be liable for unpaid rent if they said YOU hadn't given notice?

somuchtolearnabout · 29/01/2023 13:10

The OP said herself

less than 6 months into our latest year long tenancy agreement, an estate agent contacted me out of the blue saying he'd been instructed to sell the property so I needed to agree to a time for them to value and take photos as well for viewings.

The tenancy is up in March. She was contacted in November. That’s fair warning and anyone who says it isn’t is just being facetious

RaiseTheStakesAndMakeTheLastWordDuckhead · 29/01/2023 13:10

Are people not reading OP’s posts?? They have NOT been given notice.

OP I’m an LL, it’s very straightforward: your LL and you have a written contract. They have to give you WRITTEN notice. You cannot break a written contract orally, via an EA 🤣🤣

Stay as long as is convenient.

You LL is an idiot.

Knoblauch · 29/01/2023 13:11

Toddlerteaplease · 29/01/2023 13:05

Why on earth do people think they have a right to stay in a rented property, and refuse viewings etc. The landlord has every right to sell. And not allowing viewings is just petty. It's not your house.

Erm... probably because legally they do have a right to live in the property and legally they do have a right refuse viewings. It's the law.

RaiseTheStakesAndMakeTheLastWordDuckhead · 29/01/2023 13:11

somuchtolearnabout · 29/01/2023 13:10

The OP said herself

less than 6 months into our latest year long tenancy agreement, an estate agent contacted me out of the blue saying he'd been instructed to sell the property so I needed to agree to a time for them to value and take photos as well for viewings.

The tenancy is up in March. She was contacted in November. That’s fair warning and anyone who says it isn’t is just being facetious

She was contacted by an EA. Not her LL.

MaireadMcSweeney · 29/01/2023 13:12

WaitingForLifeToGetEasier · 29/01/2023 12:59

@SerenaTee because it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't sent out to their incompetence, that's why! Why would I want to remind them?!

I'd rather move in May than March. Who wouldn't? The additional rent we're going to have to pay for those two months will be in region of £600-800 if we're lucky. I've also got a court case ongoing which will be over by May.

Why would I f**k myself over for my millionaire landlord who made me wait two years for an essential repair?

Some of these responses are embarrassing for the poster who posted them. Affecting my credit rating? Not paying the rent? Rolling over and leaving before I've been legally asked to so I don't inconvenience my multi millionaire landlord who has made hundred of thousands of £s out of me. Cringeworthy 🤨

You know perfectly well that nothing will happen between march and may even if you WERE served s21 which you haven't been, so it may works for you then plan to move out in may 🤷🏼‍♀️ I'm not sure why you are asking tbh, this is a non issue

MaireadMcSweeney · 29/01/2023 13:12

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Oh shut up. Really. The LL hasn't served notice! You are the horrible person for posting such ignorant bollocks.

Floraanddougal · 29/01/2023 13:12

I’m afraid if you’re struggling to find a place now, once it moves ro eviction you will never private rent again, unless from some slum landlord you pay up front.

are you eligible for a council house? They may need to help you find somewhere ultimately as you will be homeless

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/01/2023 13:13

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 29/01/2023 12:57

You’d actually be foolish to leave without any contact with your LL.

Technically they haven’t served you notice. If you leave they could easily say you’re still liable for the rent as no break has been legally instigated by them.

Personally I’d contact them and ask them when they’re planning on issuing the S21 or if the sale plans have been cancelled.
That way you’ve highlighted that they’ve not served you properly and also not leaving yourself in limbo.

This. So many people telling you to leave without either receiving or giving the correct notice. I’m a landlord btw.

Knoblauch · 29/01/2023 13:13

The frothing at the mouth crazies are out in force today!

AfraidToRun · 29/01/2023 13:13

Sorry you're getting so much shit here OP. You have rights that are written in law. The fact that so many people think you shouldn't have them doesn't negate that fact.

I've had good landlords and I've had rubbish ones. Sadly there is no requirement for landlord training and you can still be a 'professional' and be crap at it.

MaireadMcSweeney · 29/01/2023 13:13

WelliesandWine88 · 29/01/2023 13:04

I'm sure many wiill disagree...but imo yes you should leave.
This may be your 'home' but it's not your house... legally it's not your property. You've been given adequate notice.
Why make everyone's life more difficult, including your own because you certainly won't get a reference, which you'll need to secure a new place.....and at the end of it all, you still have to leave no matter how much of a fyas you make...

Where has she been given adequate notice?!

RaiseTheStakesAndMakeTheLastWordDuckhead · 29/01/2023 13:14

Knoblauch · 29/01/2023 13:13

The frothing at the mouth crazies are out in force today!

Right?!? This thread is fucking wild.

MaireadMcSweeney · 29/01/2023 13:14

Toddlerteaplease · 29/01/2023 13:05

Why on earth do people think they have a right to stay in a rented property, and refuse viewings etc. The landlord has every right to sell. And not allowing viewings is just petty. It's not your house.

Ummm the law?!

MotherofBingo · 29/01/2023 13:15

If there are no properties so nowhere for the tenant to go, and they can't afford to pay more in rent and the council won't help if they make themselves intentionally homeless then what exactly are tenants supposed to do? I know it's not fair on the landlord but it feels like people are advocating for people to be on the streets. It's a rubbish policy that the council won't help unless you wait till you are forcefully evicted but that is their policy. It's also rubbish that rents are sky high (£1,600 on average for a 2 bed flat near me now!) and in such short supply that they are like gold dust. Ideally, of course tenants could get another property in place and move before the times but in reality that's not always possible and while it's shit for the landlord, it's shit for the tenant too! Nobody wants to be in that position - it doesn't make them horrible people though. Just people in a horrible situation.

Toddlerteaplease · 29/01/2023 13:15

I rented my house for 10 years before buying it. I wouldn't have dreamed of preventing the landlord from doing anything that they wanted with it. As it was her property.

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