To NOT leave rented house when I said I would?

[WaitingForLifeToGetEasier]

Been in current rented house for 9 years. Landlord is a company with 30+ properties.

Tenancy is generally renewed every year as LL puts rent up.

Last year, less than 6 months into our latest year long tenancy agreement, an estate agent contacted me out of the blue saying he'd been instructed to sell the property so I needed to agree to a time for them to value and take photos as well for viewings.

I was shocked as LL has not said anything and it transpired that the letting agent has added a 6 month break clause into the tenancy agreement. There had never been one In previous agreements and I wasn't made aware.

I made it clear i was not going to allow anyone in the property until the end of the agreement and if the landlord wanted to sell, I'd leave at that time.

Tenancy is up in early March. I had expected to get a Section 21 in early January but nothing.

We have been looking but properties are either not available anymore or agent doesn't get back to us so have not found a property yet. Rents seem to have gone up £3-400 a month which is going to be impossible.

Not sure if LL is just expecting us to leave or what but I am not intending to leave in early March and will stay as long as possible - await section 21 etc.

AIBU?

Also, why is everyone assuming the OP is living in England ?

The law is different, depending on where you live, yet there have been literally dozens of posters who are declaring other posters as wrong/deluded/liars for stating 'facts' about the law and 'rights', without a clue as to which laws/rights are actually applicable to the OP ?

But the vast majority of the responses have been total incorrect bollocks. OP has a point

How is she still out with no notice?

with no notice she’s absolutely not out…

@WaitingForLifeToGetEasier
We had a beautiful rented flat next to Richmond Park at a very fair rate..There was no paperwork, no agreement..Sh just wanted her house ''Lived in'' while looking after her elderly mother elsewhere.

When I became pregnant the landlady panicked and asked us to leave.

We could have made life difficult for all concerned, but the landlady had been good enough to let us live there for almost a year at a very low rent.
It was that which pushed us to try and buy. {Which was successful a year later}

We left landlady's lovely flat when agreed, and got a good reference.

It is worth doing things ''By the book''
Get a good reference!
Insecure housing absolutely sucks, and believe me, I have been there, living in London, rents were always high.

But...Good refs really really help.

Good luck.

No, I'm not out of touch at all.

You're so far out of touch that you're hovering in the stratosphere. I don't even know how to begin to explain to you what's changed since you last knew what was happening.

Er, no, she DOES need a s21.

Scary how uninformed people are

The process is (in theory) when the tenancy ends (March) a section 21 is served. She will then have 2 weeks to leave the property. If she hasn't left an eviction order will be served.
This information is free for anyone to view on the "Shelter" website. I would advise OP contacts them and her landlord.

Sorry it’s normally 2 months not 2 weeks

Doesn’t matter she has a legal right to refuse

Agree. I've been both a tenant and a landlord (at the same time). As long as you continue to pay your rent, sit tight and wait for notice to be served.

How is she still out with no notice?
with no notice she’s absolutely not out…

She WILL be out. She WILL NOT be there long term and if he is selling she WILL be out. He wants her out, he has every right to want her out. Once her gives her the proper notification she WILL be out. So she is literally prolonging it in the hope that there are a sudden flurry of new houses to rent with reduced rental rates. Her best bet would be to contact him, ask him what the story is and get the necessary documentation. Then she knows where she stands.

But at the end of the day.....be in now or further on down the line...she is OUT.

Who said she had?
to answer your main point though of course it's ok not to assume that verbal notice is notice. It's not.

They can't get an injunction to get access to take photos to market the property 😆
Also OP didn't say she was planning to stay to eviction only until May! 2 months after the end of the AST period!

OP remember on MN there are many landlords. Anything that is not in the best interests of a landlord gets condemned.
Do not make yourself voluntarily homeless as you could end up literally on the streets.

I think it is hilarious that people think she can stay. Yes she needs notice and that document but he IS selling and she WILL be out.

Eventually.

However please please don’t withhold your rent!!

The thickos on Thai thread deserve to be called thickos TBF

Court access is granted for essential repairs. Not to take photos to sell the place.
I wish there were not so many landlords who are totally ignorant of the law.

How do you know he is? How do you know that he hasn’t changed his mind?

Bar one phone call months ago there is no evidence of that.

No notice has been given so she can absolutely stay until such times as it is.

That’s not how the process works. Legally, if the LL wants her to leave he needs to serve a s21. The onus is on him as he wants her out.

If she leaves without one she’ll be liable for rent.

What aren’t you getting?

Are they landlords though?

• Two Months.

You are either making this up or you can’t read properly

Thats not the process, at all, not even close.

A s21 isn’t automatically served at the end of a tenancy agreement, it’s served when the LL wants the tenant out.

How do you know he is? How do you know that he hasn’t changed his mind?

Yeah, she really should contact and know where she stands shouldn't she?