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To feel sorry for Brooklyn Beckham?

595 replies

Ridelikethewindypops · 28/01/2023 09:32

I just do feel a bit sorry for him. He's completely out of touch with the real world obviously, but he's so young and so gormless. But seems so determined to be famous in his own right, despite no specialist skill set. I wonder do famous parents ever encourage their children to go to uni and get a real job? Or is that not an option? There are plenty of fulfilling jobs he could do, teaching, nursing, even volunteering ( as he clearly doesn't need the money)
I feel bad for him as he gets mocked online, but he still seems determined to put himself out there.
Money aside, I do feel sorry for the children of spectacularly talented parents, it must cast a long shadow. ( I repeat, money aside...😅)

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Maireas · 28/01/2023 12:05

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 28/01/2023 11:59

I also don’t think dressing your 10yo in a cleavage exposing dress at a high profile public event is very good parenting. Working class people would have a social services visit over that

I thought the same when I saw those pictures. That little girl is being promoted as part of their brand, and will no doubt end up as a model/influencer.

karamazing · 28/01/2023 12:07

Sadly, a model or influencer whom the media will turn into a laughing stock because it will be the worst case of nepotism on their records and there will be a huge public appetite to tear into her.

IntentionalError · 28/01/2023 12:08

Brooklyn is a laughing stock, and rightly so, but he isn’t the only celebrity offspring who lives off their parents’ name and wealth. Gary Lineker has four adult sons, none of whom, to the best of my knowledge has ever had a proper job despite benefiting from the best education money can buy.

I believe that James McCartney, son of Paul, is in the same position despite his sister’s success in the fashion industry. Stella proves that it doesn’t matter how famous your parents are or how privileged you are, if you work hard & succeed in your own right, you will be respected for it.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 28/01/2023 12:11

YY, Stella McCartney is actually a very good designer in her own right. Yes she will have used her connections to her slightly ahead but she obviously does have talent and works hard.

Guavafish1 · 28/01/2023 12:12

I do feel for him in that the responses are so negative! I'm surprised it's not induced mental health issues.

People online are cruel.

I'm sure he will find his path in life... whatever it is!

I agree I do feel for the children who's parents are great. A majority can't and won't be able to lift the shadow.

Timesawastin · 28/01/2023 12:12

PSNonsense · 28/01/2023 09:58

It runs at a loss. Madness.

You'd be surprised how many businesses run at a loss. For a significant period of years this was true of a certain South American Large River Company...

SapatSea · 28/01/2023 12:12

@Theemptychair23 Flowers I know how you feel.

VastQuantities · 28/01/2023 12:12

You describe him as "out of touch" and "gormless"- and then you suggest a career in teaching or nursing!! He does not appear capable of either of those careers, in terms of personality, attributes or intellect.

bedisbest · 28/01/2023 12:15

i admire VB. She acknowledges quite openly that she wasn’t the best dancer or singer but she was prepared to work really, bloody hard. Harder than others. A woman who was at the performing arts school VB was at, said VB was the first in the rehearsal studio and the last to leave. She put the hours in.

I have heard Chris Hoy and Scott Jurek. ( one of the world’s best ultra runners) say the same. They acknowledge they weren’t the most talented at what they did, but they did work the hardest. They had the mental strength and work ethic that the more naturally talented did not have.
She got to the top of a very competitive industry. You don’t do that by luck. You do that by really having something about you.

She has also earned an amount of respect in the fashion industry. Yes she had the money for the best materials, but she had a huge credibility problem. She was being laughed at, they all wanted her to fail. But she’s won respect for her designs, knowing what she is talking about, and putting herself out there by narrating her shows instead of hiding behind the scenes. It’s a tough industry.

watcherintherye · 28/01/2023 12:15

I’m as sure as I can be about anything, that BB isn’t scrolling through MN, so won’t see any of this!

I do agree with pp that it’s a nasty thread. I think the remarks about his, and other family members’ appearance are particularly unpleasant. This 23 year old can’t do anything about the fact that he’s already in the spotlight. He could try as hard as he wants to be ‘normal’, but the media will always be watching. What’s sad is that he’s having to go through all the twists and turns and uncertainties of young adulthood in the glare of publicity. Not everyone knows what they want to do for the rest of their lives at 23, and lots of 23 year olds will have dropped out of courses or jobs and posted silly or misguided videos on SM along the way, completely unnoticed.

If he were to try and get a ‘normal’ job, you can bet that would be ridiculed, too. Yes, he’s got money, but he’ll never have the luxury of making his mistakes in private. He can’t help that his parents facilitated the double-edged sword of a media presence for their children so early in their lives.

feelingrubbish2023 · 28/01/2023 12:16

I think it's poor parenting. With all that money, education and contacts they should have encouraged him to find a decent career that suited him. They can afford to buy him a house he doesn't need to be a celebrity or an influencer or even a high earner. They should have helped him find his passion.

JustWantedACat · 28/01/2023 12:18

karamazing · 28/01/2023 11:55

His mum and dad were the product of the first generation to get stinking rich based on media publicity, PR and image branding. He was an average footballer and his wife a completely talentless performer. They went on to produce kids who are logically/biologically what you would expect. They have done what they can with their money to give their kids a good life - endless holidays, good food, excellent schools.
Unfortunately, all the money in the world could not buy them smart children. Even if they had gone down the genetic selection route, I don't think a superior strand of DNA could have been found under the microscope as it may not exist on either side.

I agree with everything you said, but VB was a spice girl which makes her cool to me! 😁 Completely rubbish as a solo act and couldn't sing for toffee, but as part of a 5 piece, they were all fab and made a huge dent in pop history!
Plus I always admired the way she turned it around in the 00s from laughing stock solo "singer" to high end fashion designer, where she appears to be taken seriously and I wouldn't imagine that's an easy thing to do in the fashion world! Whether she would have achieved that without "brand Beckham " after the spice girls split, I don't know, but the achievement isn't something to dismiss completely!

Dashel · 28/01/2023 12:20

I don’t get why he doesn’t open a business and be the front of it and then his wife/ parents find a brains to run it. Like an art gallery, get someone who knows what they are doing to do all the logistics and source work and promote new up and coming artists or photographers and then Brooklyn can turn up occasionally and network and have shows where he and his clan be photographed along with their mates. Taking all the credit but none of the work.

As long as you had someone sensible actually running it, he could do very little and make a success of it.

musingsinmidlife · 28/01/2023 12:21

He has grown up and been known as David and Victoria's son. He is 23. He wants his own identity. The family has always been in the public eye so that is what he knows. He is idealistic and out of touch with the majority of the world but I think everyone, regardless of income, has that same sense of figuring out their identity and who they are and that is probably even harder to do when you live in your parent's shadow.

He is used to hate and criticism and negativity online as he has grown up with it so he isn't seeing the response to his videos the way you or I would. He also has a pretty big fan base on social media who are cheering him on.

KettrickenSmiled · 28/01/2023 12:22

Roussette · 28/01/2023 11:07

Kettricken.... I agree. I know a very rich family, (came into money with a sale of a Co) known them for decades. Basically, everything you could do wrong with bringing up kids, they have done!

The kids are all 30+ and parents still shell out money on them all the time. One of the kids is the same age as my DD (who has now worked her way up in her career for 10 years). He hasn't yet had a job!! He washed up at a pub aged 17 but gave it up after two shifts as he 'hated it'. So he is pratting around on the golf course and at the gym, Ma and Pa bought him a flat in the most expensive area of a city near me, he has had a vanity project for about 6 years now, he makes about £500 a year lol.

All the kids (maybe bar one) are the most entitled snobby idiots imaginable.

Interesting isn't it Roussette.
Disturbing & a little disgusting ... but interesting.

The absolute enrager is the entitlement you mention: it makes these trustafarian kid-adults believe that their easy-come-easy-go vanity project is actually a success, & all due to their innate genius.
Meawhile patronising me because I've Done So Well, Considering ... ie bought & fully paid for my own gaff, strictly without nepotism, while they're still twatting about having rent paid or houses given to them in their 50's & 60's.

I mainly find the snobbery amusing, it's the personality disorders/dysfunctional thinking that causes concern. I avoid the connected relative mentioned upthread whenever possible: her latest wheeze was to study remotely for a Psych Degree, while informing everyone that as she's "a psychiatrist now" 😂😡so she obviously knows everything.

The moment she broadcast news of her study plan, my inner cynic kneejerked - "oh fuck, is she ever gonna weaponise THAT".
4 years later (she could afford to take her time, after all ...) bingo! Her mother & brother, who I actually rate highly & love, & who escaped the Family Disease through hard work & an identity-preserving sense of purpose, are now both labelled Narcissists. And the relative constantly attempts to co-opt me as her own Flying Monkey ... go figure. Hmm

I predict some major depression, substance abuse issues, or personal dysfunction for the Beckham kids.
Before the bloody #BeKind brigade jumps on that - no, I won't enjoy the spectacle, I'd rather they did ok & I could continue to enjoy mocking them.
I'd also infinitely prefer that they STFU, stop providing such a poor example to youngsters, & did something worthy for social benefit instead, but alas, as long as people lap up vapid celeb 'culture' it will continue to perpetuate itself.

karamazing · 28/01/2023 12:22

@JustWantedACat Agree that she was originally included in the band because she was really gorgeous and definitely looked and sounded cool.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 28/01/2023 12:23

All that money and he still always looks like he hasn’t had a shower in 5 days.

Mind you, his dad was always the same - I never understood why he was a sex symbol. He has the sex appeal of dishcloth IMO.

Hellybelly84 · 28/01/2023 12:23

He could do anything and perhaps is just one of those individuals thats flips from one thing to another. I know we dont really know them, but the parents (despite their fame) do seem very down to earth and very family orientated people. I can imagine they would encourage him with whatever he wants to do. Perhaps having all that family money has made him less likely to stick at something when it becomes difficult and push himself as he knows there will always be huge wealth to fall back on. However that is abit of a generalistion as plenty of wealthy famous children find successful careers (McCartney’s children for example).

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 28/01/2023 12:24

Really surprised at people saying that because all he knew was fake it’s fine to only pursue fame rather than an educationZ if a member of the royal family can work in a garden centre, Brooklyn Beckham can do an apprenticeship somewhere

KettrickenSmiled · 28/01/2023 12:24

TheaBrandt · 28/01/2023 11:14

He seems to have minimal self awareness which for him is probably a good thing

😂
Ouch! And touche - rapier-sharp observational comedy Ms Brandt 👏

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 28/01/2023 12:26

Can’t believe people think V&D are down to Earth. He warned £10m flogging holidays to a dodgy AF (in terms of human rights) country. He’s had tantrums over not being knighted. They sat on thrones at their wedding. Their son’s wedding cost $3m.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 28/01/2023 12:26

*earned

karamazing · 28/01/2023 12:27

He is lucky in that he will never go hungry (without Brand Beckham, that was a possibility). He has married the girl of his dreams. I don't think it is a serious, long-term marriage but he has had that experience. I saw the IG story of him making a small plate of truffle pasta. The value of the truffles he put in was possibly over thirty quid. He was too tone-deaf to understand. However, he is lucky to be able to do that without a second thought

Bepis · 28/01/2023 12:28

I don't really see the issue. People go to work for money, to be able to survive. He doesn't need the money so there's no real need to have a career. He can if he wants to of course but does it really matter if he doesn't? If I had his money, I wouldn't be working either.

JustWantedACat · 28/01/2023 12:29

feelingrubbish2023 · 28/01/2023 12:16

I think it's poor parenting. With all that money, education and contacts they should have encouraged him to find a decent career that suited him. They can afford to buy him a house he doesn't need to be a celebrity or an influencer or even a high earner. They should have helped him find his passion.

No, I disagree. You can lead a horse to water etc... but seriously, d&v paid for great schooling and provided a nice home and a good childhood. Beyond that, adult kids need to take responsibility for their own successes and failures. Some young adults take absolutely years to find out what it is they "want to do with their life" career wise, not through lack of opportunity but they just don't know what it is they are passionate about. Regular jo blogs usually takes on a job to pay the bills whist they figure out what they "really want to do," and some never figure it out or go on to have kids and life takes over etc. The difference between brooklyn is that he doesn't have to take on jobs to pay the bills, and he can try out different things whilst he figures it out. The principle between Jo blogs and brooklyn is the same though... if you don't know what you want to do, then you don't know 🤷🏼‍♀️ and iy proves money doesn't always buy that decision for you.