To park in one of hundred of disabled spaces where there isn’t a single P&C space?

[MickeyMouseShithouse]

I have two children in car seats and I struggling getting them out in one particular multi storey car park local to me. The thing is, this multi story has hundreds.. hundreds(!) of disabled spaces that the majority of are always empty, but not a single parent and child space for a shopping centre?!

Its started to effect my anxiety and puts me off going there but it’s really the only half-decent place I can get anything locally.

WIBU to park in a disabled spot? Not even one close to the entrance, just any of them!

or who do I contact to question why there aren’t any p&c spaces?

it’s so frustrating, I can’t imagine there are a couple hundred disabled people going shopping to the same shopping centre in the same day.. but I can imagine there are are least 1 family with a car seat/pushchair!

I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding the situation or if I'm just dangerously lax by your standards, but what's the issue with leaving the baby in a pram a metre away from you for the seconds it'll take to get the toddler out?

Disabled people with blue badge,s can use P&C spaces if it suits their needs better ,parents using disabled spaces however may well get fined as disabled spaces are a legal. Requirement and P&C spaces are not

this mightut blow your mind but my child is also.a blue badge holder so.we will park in whichever space is more suitable for him.

Really not a fan of this "having children is a choice" narrative.

It's quite insensitive to those unsuccessfully TTC... are they just "choosing not" to have children?

Everyone's circumstances are different, no-one chooses disabilities and not everyone chooses kids, sometimes it just happens.

Empathy is free... and disabled spaces are for people with disabilities. HTH

So am I! I’ve parked in multi story car parks in towns and cities all over the UK and never seen hundreds of disabled spaces! There might be a few on each level close by the lift but hundreds - stop exaggerating!

I know! As the parent of a severely disabled child, I find it horrifying that people are so open about their disgust and hatred of disabled people. I’d be interested to know just how many spaces dedicated for disabled people, so some of society’s most vulnerable people, would be judged to be an ‘obscene amount’.

Avoid the shopping centre. I avoid anywhere where there isn't good parking unless it's work 😂

Parents and child spaces did not exist when I had my three young children, but somehow I managed to park my VW campervan, open the doors, get children and double pushchair out and walk to the door.

P&C spaces do not need to be anywhere near the store entrance

how strange that you cite this as a complaint.
maybe these spaces were further away.

id much rather see P&C spaces at the back of the car park and spaces nearby allocated to BB holders and for people who are recovering from broken limbs, illness, or are frail through age - but don’t qualify for a BB.

if it came down to an old lady of 84 or a mum of 34 with two kids, I know who I think should get to park near the entrance

Imagine having a 12 year old who.has the cognitive ability of a 2 year old and trying to.navigate them safely to.the shop and finding entitled parents have used the last blue badge space ,because they think they are more entitled than blue badge holder,s?

If your relative is registered blind, then they will automatically qualify for a Blue Badge.

It’s like public toilets when you have a baby. In my area I can’t fit the pushchair in the toilets. It can be a struggle

imagine how much more of a struggle it is if you are an adult who uses a wheelchair and can’t get into those toilets

I’m not in competition with you, merely stating it can be tricky.

Really @MickeyMouseShithouse ???

The only thing that is ‘obscene’ is your attitude

There are always more disabled spaces than necessary- that's why they're nearly always empty when the rest of the car park is full!

@EmmatheStageRat they are just above the range to be registered as severely sight impaired. The main impact has been to peripheral vision (stroke).

it is unusual to have no p and c spaces these days

even our old relic of a car park put some in

I think the toilets is a bit more of a grey area than the parking spaces in places where the baby change does not have a toilet in it - which admittedly aren't many. I always try not to, but I did once have to use the disabled toilet when I was out alone with DC in the pram. I didnt realise the cage I had chosen to stop at had a separate ba y change with no toilet, a disabled loo woth no baby change (therefore not for me to use) and the cubicles thati couldn't fit the pram in. My option then was to to leave DC alone outside the toilets, soil myself or use the disabled loo. I used the disabled one but got in and out as quickly as possible. Luckily there was nobody else waiting and I now check available toilet/baby change facilities before stopping so I don't need to do that again.

they are just above the range to be registered as severely sight impaired. The main impact has been to peripheral vision (stroke). so if this level of impairment DOESN’T get you a blue badge imaginehow difficult things have to be to be bad enough to get one.

Of course it’s not a competition.
that’s just silly.

you can take your kid out of a push chair
voila! Problem solved.

meanwhile, the disabled adult in a wheelchair still can’t get into the toilet cubicle, can they?

just imagine for a moment how much more difficult their life is.

"I do not have X-Ray eyes no, but it is my opinion that many supermarkets and large stores allocate a disproportionate number of front/nearby spaces to the disabled. I do not agree that all are genuine or necessary vs someone like the OP."

The OP doesn't need a space by the door. If people have toddlers that run off put reins on them.

I know, those pesky disabled people who might be thinking about venturing out!

Pretty bad, actually, as the parent of a child who IS registered blind.

Yabvu

No you can't.