To park in one of hundred of disabled spaces where there isn’t a single P&C space?

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I have two children in car seats and I struggling getting them out in one particular multi storey car park local to me. The thing is, this multi story has hundreds.. hundreds(!) of disabled spaces that the majority of are always empty, but not a single parent and child space for a shopping centre?!

Its started to effect my anxiety and puts me off going there but it’s really the only half-decent place I can get anything locally.

WIBU to park in a disabled spot? Not even one close to the entrance, just any of them!

or who do I contact to question why there aren’t any p&c spaces?

it’s so frustrating, I can’t imagine there are a couple hundred disabled people going shopping to the same shopping centre in the same day.. but I can imagine there are are least 1 family with a car seat/pushchair!

YABVU you chose to have children, no one chooses to be disabled and you have no right to use disabled parking places

I parked in p&c when mil had injured her leg. She needed space and help to get out and also to be closer to the store. I couldn’t drop
her off and drive around for a space as she was unsteady on her fee. She still wanted to wander (slower than eternity) round a shop. As it was temporary she didn’t qualify for a blue badge.

P&C spaces are a courtesy, not a legal requirement.
You also chose to have a kid.. no one chooses to have a disability.

Some multi-storeys have very small spaces, if they were built when the average car was smaller, and it must be near impossible to get children out of car seats as you can barely open the doors wide enough to wriggle out. (At the one I'm thinking of, when we use it the passengers get out before the driver parks, so there only needs to be room to open the door on one side. You can't do that with a toddler unless there's a second adult.) The ends of the rows are next to the walls, so I can quite see why someone would be struggling to find a space that they can actually use.

It's starting to affect your anxiety?? How on earth??

Just park in a normal space and walk a bit further.

Re who to contact about the car park, Google is your friend. Google the car park name and you will find out who to contact.

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Well that's an unexpected twist.

I used P&C when I broke my foot. No BB, but I needed the space and to be close to the store.

I'm just here for Steve now.

You risk the ticket with 0% chance of appeal.

I’m usually fairly entitled but that’s a bridge too far even for me. Of course YABU, P&C spaces are a perk but we can all cope without them when needed. I just park way out the far side of the car park and walk a bit further. Parenting thankfully hasn’t affected my ability to move.

how rude are you? i had severe back pain if you must know. i found it very difficult to walk - nothing to do with choosing anything .

I don’t believe that there are hundreds of disabled spaces

If there are hundreds of disabled spaces (!) then there must even more standard bays.

So park further away and find a bay with another empty bay next to it for more space to open doors.

I’m worried about Uncle Steve too.

Disabled people are allowed to park in Parent and Child spaces (and on some double yellow lines) hth

how rude are you? i had severe back pain if you must know. i found it very difficult to walk - nothing to do with choosing anything .

You totally misread my comment.

I don’t know why anyone thinks this is some sort of revelation.

EVERYTHING is a marketing tactic. You aren’t busting a particular shop because you just happen to know it’s there and it’s a shop. You’re visiting it because of marketing.

This
people keep making stuff like this up
if you don’t have a blue badge you can’t park in a bb bay

I met Steve in Morrison's carpark once. He was indeed very angry. Shouting at me for parking in a p&c space without a child I completely ignored him as I didn't realise who he was shouting out from his car. He parked up and came stomping over to have a go at me but clocked the blue badge at the last minute. I saw the exact moment he realised he was about to make an absolute dick of himself, as he pivoted mid stride like a gazelle and headed off in a different direction. Steve should have been a ballet dancer.

Well this attracted more attention than I thought it might 😂

Lets start with this: I’m not Steve, sorry.

I’m only asking out of interest, I don’t think I would actually bring myself to park in a disabled space.. even if there are an obscene amount of them..

Yes, I’m a long term sufferer of general anxiety anyway.. I sweat at the thought of taking both kids anywhere by myself, in fact I sweat over most things. So I probably wouldn’t actually use a disabled space out of fear of being judged anyway.

I can’t get the older out first because she’s prime ‘dart out into infront of cars’ age; I definitely need to get the baby out first, then the toddler. But it means leaving the pushchair at the back of the car with the baby in too out of sight while I’m grabbing the toddler. So it’s quite a frustrating situation.

Choosing to have a child is not a disability. I'd also love to park in a wider bay with better access but of course I don't as I have no right to those spaces.

Procreation does not give you a right to take things from others.

Wardens do check multi storey car parks. I got a ticket in one the other week for not charging my EV in the EV spot (I'd set it up incorrectly in the app and didn't realise). If you park in a disabled spot you'll likely get a ticket at some point. Plus there's the moral issue of course.

As PP says, park at the end of the row and get the kids out one side, get there really early, or park/shop somewhere else?

Out of fear of being judged? Not for inconveniencing a disabled person?

Yabu.
When I had twins and a singleton, the twins went one in front one in back and the singleton went behind driver. I then could park on end of row and singleton could climb across.
As a now disabled person if I can't park in the blue badge space I can't park and have to go home you have choices I and many others don't. Asking on here doesn't make it any more acceptable.

@AllThingsServeTheBeam absolutely not in this particular car park, I’ve never once seen the disabled spaces there at even 50% capacity. You can go there at peak time on a Saturday and you’re just driving by space after space of empty disabled bays 😅

so I would have zero worries about ‘taking’ a space from someone who needs a disabled bay as they could just pick one of the many, many more 😂

I’ll have to come back to this thread the next time I go so I can photo how many disabled spaces there are!