Like many people, I'm not fulfilled by what I do for a living. At all.
I was chatting to a doctor the other day who loves what she does - even with all the crap that NHS staff put up with - and it really hit home how I've never had that feeling. Work has always been a means to pay the bills. The money is nice, but I'm starting to struggle with not finding it rewarding, and am considering taking a pay cut for job satisfaction.
If you actually love your job - you're not just doing it for money - what do you do, please? And is it the role you actually love or the employer? (I have been wondering if working for a charity I believe in might be the answer, and am doing the sums to see if I could afford to live on third-sector wages.) I feel stuck, and I'm looking for inspiration to start researching a career change.
(Even if it's not something I can actually do, still interested in your answers. I've spent my whole adult life expecting everyone to be miserable at work, and now I'm wondering if that doesn't have to be true.)
AIBU?
To ask what you do for a living if you genuinely love what you do?
waterfallswillfindyou · 23/01/2023 21:32
bert3400 · 23/01/2023 21:59
Own a business - and not a made up MLM business.
Do I love it, no but what I do love is the income, the flexibility, the fact we can work anywhere in the world - only constriction is time difference - we live in sunny Europe ( which is effing freezing atm) and I love that.
PousseyNotMoira · 24/01/2023 02:28
I think the sector can be wonderful, but I agree with all of this.
Have you seen this? mobile.twitter.com/nonprofitssay?t=IWcJvGlkIDiWCCyY5wgPXg&s=08
It’s hilarious, but also not.
Agapornis · 24/01/2023 01:44
Accountancy could get you a good role in the civil service/a quango.
Not a success story, but I've just left the charity sector after 15 years. Be very picky about your new employer. I'd stay away from very small charities as they are prone to founder syndrome. Things I didn't like:
- bad pay: related to lack of union recognition, and a sector dominated by middle class women subsidised by better-earning husbands.
- lack of professionalism: forever taking on more work without checking staff capacity, not seeking continuous funding for essential roles on temporary contracts, people with no ambition staying in the same role for far too long, management unwillingness to do proper performance management and get rid of dead wood, little training, no push to stay current and be competitive.
- white saviourism: lots of white / able bodied people feeling the need to save black and brown / disabled / poor / foreign people.
If that hasn't put you off, lots of jobs are advertised on Charity job, where employers are forced to show the salary.
MarkWithaC · 24/01/2023 09:51
Editorial freelancer in publishing. Love it. Cannot believe I get paid (albeit not v well) to sit at home drinking tea and, essentially, reading books.
It is more than that really, obviously, and sometimes it can be dull (proofreading uninteresting material) or very challenging/stressful and frustrating (dismantling, rearranging and improving badly written or structured material. Not to mention having silly deadlines imposed on me). And freelancing is by its nature financially precarious.
But I genuinely wouldn't want to stop and would be very upset if someone told me I had to. Not just because of the income either.
Warmwesterly · 24/01/2023 08:18
Thank you @PousseyNotMoira
I was at a similar level in a Not for Profit and am constantly seeking to answer the ‘what next’ question. Retirement feels hollow !!
PousseyNotMoira · 23/01/2023 23:39
Strategic development and change management. I come in and create the framework, then I toddle off and let everyone else do the work. 😊
Warmwesterly · 23/01/2023 23:17
@PousseyNotMoira would you share what sort of Consultancy you do now?
aynsleyredder · 24/01/2023 13:55
Oh OP, I resonate with your post completely. I work in accounts and I’m completely fed up. I hate the monotony and long for a role where I do something much more worthwhile.
I had an interview this morning, but it was my first in over 15 years and I struggled so don’t think I will have got it. I’m not sure it was right for me anyway. I’m a bit stuck in that I have two young children to pick up from school/nursery, so my options are a bit limited as I’d need flexibility.
Best of luck with your job hunt, I hope you get the job satisfaction you deserve.
Pssspsss · 24/01/2023 11:19
Hello @MarkWithaC
Is there such a thing as part-time/casual proof-reading jobs? I work part-time in a role which I think gives oodles of transferable skill. I’ve always wondered if there’s a possibility to pick up a bit of spare cash when I’m sitting at home doing nothing but utilising my skills.
MarkWithaC · 24/01/2023 09:51
Editorial freelancer in publishing. Love it. Cannot believe I get paid (albeit not v well) to sit at home drinking tea and, essentially, reading books.
It is more than that really, obviously, and sometimes it can be dull (proofreading uninteresting material) or very challenging/stressful and frustrating (dismantling, rearranging and improving badly written or structured material. Not to mention having silly deadlines imposed on me). And freelancing is by its nature financially precarious.
But I genuinely wouldn't want to stop and would be very upset if someone told me I had to. Not just because of the income either.
waterfallswillfindyou · 23/01/2023 23:01
@StepAwayFromGoogling @MichaelAndEagle Can I ask how you got into CSR/sustainability, please?
@OvertiredandConfused Can I please ask how you got into the C-suite? This has always seemed shrouded in mystery to me!
@cheapskatemum @familyissues12345 @iwishiwereafirefly @OnTheRunWithMannyMontana @Janedoe82 @WhinnieThePoohHead @sunshineandshowers40 @Thedamndoorbell @schnitzeln Would love to hear a bit more about what you do for your charities if any of you are open to sharing. I volunteer a lot for charities, but I never really see many jobs going - I wonder if they're not advertised externally or if it's because there's low staff turnover. I'm very interested in the idea of working for a charity that is aligned with my values - I think there could be a lot of fulfilment in that.
Wordsofthewise · 24/01/2023 11:14
Hi Op, I’m not sure if you have said yet, but what sort of charities are in you interested in / or what values are important to you? I have some experience in joining the charity sector after having previously working in a different role and have learnt a lot in the process. Happy to pm you with details and advice if you’re not sure where to look etc 😊
MichaelAndEagle · 24/01/2023 15:38
Sorry, missed you'd asked a question.
I pretty much started straight out of uni working on environmental projects.
I would suggest joining IEMA Institute for Environmental Management and Assessment. You can join as an affiliate member and take their exams to become an associate member. Dont have to pay for the course there is a self directed learning option. Even just as an affiliate member there is access to resources, webinars etc, career advice.
If you are an accountant, you'd probably find carbon footprinting easy and a good transition. Or as someone else mentioned life cycle analysis calculations.
Sustainability is a growing area and lots of people join with other areas of expertise such as project management, policy writing, change management. You don't necessarily need a Sustainability qualification.
waterfallswillfindyou · 23/01/2023 23:01
@StepAwayFromGoogling @MichaelAndEagle Can I ask how you got into CSR/sustainability, please?
@OvertiredandConfused Can I please ask how you got into the C-suite? This has always seemed shrouded in mystery to me!
@cheapskatemum @familyissues12345 @iwishiwereafirefly @OnTheRunWithMannyMontana @Janedoe82 @WhinnieThePoohHead @sunshineandshowers40 @Thedamndoorbell @schnitzeln Would love to hear a bit more about what you do for your charities if any of you are open to sharing. I volunteer a lot for charities, but I never really see many jobs going - I wonder if they're not advertised externally or if it's because there's low staff turnover. I'm very interested in the idea of working for a charity that is aligned with my values - I think there could be a lot of fulfilment in that.
aynsleyredder · 24/01/2023 13:55
Oh OP, I resonate with your post completely. I work in accounts and I’m completely fed up. I hate the monotony and long for a role where I do something much more worthwhile.
I had an interview this morning, but it was my first in over 15 years and I struggled so don’t think I will have got it. I’m not sure it was right for me anyway. I’m a bit stuck in that I have two young children to pick up from school/nursery, so my options are a bit limited as I’d need flexibility.
Best of luck with your job hunt, I hope you get the job satisfaction you deserve.
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Daftasabroom · 24/01/2023 15:12
If you can do accounts you can do an environmental life cycle analysis. 10x as interesting, you'll be helping to save the planet, and in all likelihood better paid within the next few years. I'll post some links if you're interested.
aynsleyredder · 24/01/2023 13:55
Oh OP, I resonate with your post completely. I work in accounts and I’m completely fed up. I hate the monotony and long for a role where I do something much more worthwhile.
I had an interview this morning, but it was my first in over 15 years and I struggled so don’t think I will have got it. I’m not sure it was right for me anyway. I’m a bit stuck in that I have two young children to pick up from school/nursery, so my options are a bit limited as I’d need flexibility.
Best of luck with your job hunt, I hope you get the job satisfaction you deserve.
Daftasabroom · 24/01/2023 15:12
If you can do accounts you can do an environmental life cycle analysis. 10x as interesting, you'll be helping to save the planet, and in all likelihood better paid within the next few years. I'll post some links if you're interested.
aynsleyredder · 24/01/2023 13:55
Oh OP, I resonate with your post completely. I work in accounts and I’m completely fed up. I hate the monotony and long for a role where I do something much more worthwhile.
I had an interview this morning, but it was my first in over 15 years and I struggled so don’t think I will have got it. I’m not sure it was right for me anyway. I’m a bit stuck in that I have two young children to pick up from school/nursery, so my options are a bit limited as I’d need flexibility.
Best of luck with your job hunt, I hope you get the job satisfaction you deserve.
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