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Is the Zoe nutrition test worth it? Or Emperor's new clothes?

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hydroxyapatite · 22/01/2023 08:19

I've read a lot about Zoe nutrition - a much hyped, expensive nutrition package which helps you to regulate blood glucose and blood lipids, and improve your microbiome profile.'

Has anyone done this and found it worth the money? Aren't they really just testing your cholesterol levels and finding out by using a £40 monitor what foods causing a sugar spike after eating? Therefore guiding a better diet?

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cassandrap · 08/01/2024 23:54

One customer services person could not be better - one was a bully who did not listen and blamed me for app's shortcomings. There seems to be a systemic problem of promising a fast response which is not met. In my experience communication is poor.

Oohoohpickme · 09/01/2024 01:37

I did it and found it quite informative. I felt after 4 months of 'coaching' that I'd learned all I was going to so now I'm just trying to stick to the 30 per week etc myself. Although, as Weight Watchers or any eating guidance programme will tell you, it's usually easier with somebody telling you what to do.

ErrolTheDragon · 09/01/2024 09:23

Yes, I doubt I'll feel the need to continue after the 4 months. I'll probably use one of the CGMs at some point as a reality check.

Also I am - to my surprise - taking quite well to the food logging. I've always detested calories counting but that was in the old days of having to look things up and do the arithmetic. Scanning and the database makes it easy - but there must be other apps that do this part now. I think ideally I'd like one which did that and also integrated to my Apple Watch, I'd such a thing exists.

cassandrap · 11/01/2024 11:47

A bad Zoe app cannot be saved by customer services

cassandrap · 11/01/2024 11:47

A bad Zoe app cannot be saved by customer services

TorroFerney · 11/01/2024 12:07

LisaLovedUp · 05/01/2024 12:33

But they don't need to pay ££ on Zoe! They can simply do a little bit of research themselves to realise that they're not eating a very diverse diet.

If it was so easy why would almost 70% of the population be overweight or obese? If they could just research and do it themselves?

Why Is anyone overweight or unhealthy when the info is out there and has been for ages(other than the specific 30 different plants.)

And it IS personalised. We all react differently, hence the TWINS study which is the foundation for it all.

The point of Zoe is it hits people in their wallets. It also provides 1:1 support if they need it.

I accept it's not for everyone. Fair enough.

I found it helpful as it highlighted my 'weak spot' which is saturated fats.
I also found it useful to see my BG go up highest with a roast dinner (potatoes and gravy made with flour) more than with a mince pie (full of sugar.)
I also found my BG came down a lot (after eating a banana) with a 20 min brisk walk.

But everyone’s weak spot is saturated fats!

Ive been listening to the podcasts and the food advice in the main is sensible but not earth shattering eat natural eat brightly coloured eat fermented don’t eat upf and don’t snack all the time.

but the demonisation of white rice and porridge oats unless the latter are organic is just bollocks. The healthiest peoples in the world have rice as a staple, it’s not eating rice that’s an issue it’s the amount the things we eat it with the other crap we have in our diets that these long lived nations don’t have.

and no matter how it’s marketed people will buy the Zoe thing thinking they will lose weight. Or thinking that if they pay they will get let into some secret so it’s not hard work to lose weight and requires no effort. It’s just human nature.

Extendedoctopustentacles · 11/01/2024 12:29

TorroFerney From my listening I feel that they have actually reduced the demonisation of these foods and made it so I am able to understand the impact more. It has enabled be to make an informed choice and actually I feel less guilty having white bread or white rice now.

With regards to the organic element, it's not the foods in themselves but how they are produced that is problematic. Whilst we have been eating rice and oats for years, it is only recently that they have been mass produced and the processes and chemicals involved in this production is the problem not the food.

lljkk · 11/01/2024 20:58

everyone’s weak spot is saturated fats!

Oh that's funny. I wonder what Zoe Harcombe thinks of ZoeApp (please say someone else likes the irony)

Bettyboo2475 · 08/08/2024 12:36

Hi

I'm interested in this but what puts me off is the heavy marketing, use of celebrities and claims that weight loss will come from it. I'd be interested in doing things myself without having to pay for the subscription and tests. The podcasts are great.

TorroFerney · 09/08/2024 10:59

ErrolTheDragon · 05/01/2024 13:16

No, you're missing the point entirely. Which is that there is no need to sign up for Zoe in order to, for example, eat 30 different plants a week. Eating 30 different plants a week is great for your health, no one is disputing that. But you don't need to pay £££ to find that out. Your friend who only eats the same 4 vegetables doesn't need to sign up for Zoe to find out how to improve her diet. The information is available for free.

But you're perhaps missing the point that yes, this information is available for free, but most people - even intelligent affluent people who read and understand the information! - often find it hard to actually change their eating habits. Similarly theres loads of good about the benefits of various forms of exercise but how many people do enough?

For at least some people, something like Zoë/using a CGM (and tech like fitness trackers) may be extremely useful tools for motivation and change.

But they don’t find it hard because they don’t know what to do it’s because we have to overcome our clever bodies saying eat it eat it no not the salad the cake because there may be a famine and salad doesn’t have enough energy in it. It’s only the rich worried well and those in affluent countries ( this can be poor people in affluent countries) who have had to invent ways to lose weight other than just not eating as much. When they were showing the awful famine in Ethiopia back in the 80’s there wasn’t a little fat kid was there, no they were all starving and all skin and bones.

its bey much let’s show you why you are fat and it’s not your fault it’s because your body doesn’t process sugar/salt. Absolute bollocks, eat natural unrefined stuff . But that’s too hard.

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