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Pancake day

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Viperama · 18/01/2023 00:38

School have asked parents in DC year to make 400 pancakes for pancake day. I’m North American, will I be hated if I contribute with American style pancakes? I make them all the time and it’s super easy for me. Some will have blueberries and others chocolate cooked inside.
DC is allergic to dairy and egg and I’ve a good recipe to make without.
Will everyone be unimpressed???

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ArseInTheDogBowl · 18/01/2023 09:17

As do single fathers? Not sure how that helps prove any point tbh. My point is that gender should be irrelevant when it comes to making pancakes.

Now you really are being disingenuous. You think there are the same number of single fathers, and single fathers who contribute fully to their children's lives? HA! My ex lives (by choice) the other side of the country. He doesn't contribute fully by any measure. And that is sadly all too common.

It's sex, not gender btw.

Testina · 18/01/2023 09:19

WineDup · 18/01/2023 09:09

As do single fathers? Not sure how that helps prove any point tbh. My point is that gender should be irrelevant when it comes to making pancakes.

Yeah should be.
Come on, honestly what % of pancake providers for this event do you think will be male?

Unless it’s bring a crêpe maker thingy in for performance cooking à la BBQ - then you’ll get a dad or two 😉🤣

pelargoniums · 18/01/2023 09:20

ArseInTheDogBowl · 18/01/2023 09:17

As do single fathers? Not sure how that helps prove any point tbh. My point is that gender should be irrelevant when it comes to making pancakes.

Now you really are being disingenuous. You think there are the same number of single fathers, and single fathers who contribute fully to their children's lives? HA! My ex lives (by choice) the other side of the country. He doesn't contribute fully by any measure. And that is sadly all too common.

It's sex, not gender btw.

::checks thread title:: From pancakes to “sex not gender” in four pages, is this a record?

ArseInTheDogBowl · 18/01/2023 09:21

Proud to be the record then @pelargoniums

Dogscanteatonions · 18/01/2023 09:22

megletthesecond · 18/01/2023 06:49

That is gross. I wouldn't want to eat food prepared in some random persons house. The children with allergies won't be able to eat them either.

Wait till you hear about the bake sales schools have been having for years and years!!

WineDup · 18/01/2023 09:23

ArseInTheDogBowl · 18/01/2023 09:17

As do single fathers? Not sure how that helps prove any point tbh. My point is that gender should be irrelevant when it comes to making pancakes.

Now you really are being disingenuous. You think there are the same number of single fathers, and single fathers who contribute fully to their children's lives? HA! My ex lives (by choice) the other side of the country. He doesn't contribute fully by any measure. And that is sadly all too common.

It's sex, not gender btw.

I didn’t say there is the same amount of single mothers and fathers, I simply stated that they both do exist.

And sex and gender can both be correct in this example, so that isn’t the “gotcha” that you think it is either. Gender is more fitting for my comments about gender norms.

BarbaraofSeville · 18/01/2023 09:24

Don't be ridiculous. You're not seriously saying that if a man sends pancakes to school with his child, that makes him a woman?

WineDup · 18/01/2023 09:26

Testina · 18/01/2023 09:19

Yeah should be.
Come on, honestly what % of pancake providers for this event do you think will be male?

Unless it’s bring a crêpe maker thingy in for performance cooking à la BBQ - then you’ll get a dad or two 😉🤣

It doesn’t matter what percentage of dads are the ones making the pancakes. What matters is not assuming that they aren’t.

Assuming that it’s “woman’s work” or “mothers work” is part of the reason that women/mothers feel compelled to be the ones to do this stuff, and men/dads feel okay with letting them.

WineDup · 18/01/2023 09:27

BarbaraofSeville · 18/01/2023 09:24

Don't be ridiculous. You're not seriously saying that if a man sends pancakes to school with his child, that makes him a woman?

Who said that anywhere?

DeFacto · 18/01/2023 09:27

Why 'pancake day' it's Shrove Tuesday surely?

That's akin to calling Christmas 'present day'.

If you're going to celebrate it, at least acknowledge its proper name!

DeFacto · 18/01/2023 09:29

WineDup · 18/01/2023 09:26

It doesn’t matter what percentage of dads are the ones making the pancakes. What matters is not assuming that they aren’t.

Assuming that it’s “woman’s work” or “mothers work” is part of the reason that women/mothers feel compelled to be the ones to do this stuff, and men/dads feel okay with letting them.

@WineDup is absolutely correct.

Dotjones · 18/01/2023 09:30

DeFacto · 18/01/2023 09:27

Why 'pancake day' it's Shrove Tuesday surely?

That's akin to calling Christmas 'present day'.

If you're going to celebrate it, at least acknowledge its proper name!

Well it's not "Christmas" is it, it's Christ's Mass.

Toddlerteaplease · 18/01/2023 09:31

American pancakes with bacon and maple syrup are food of the gods.

ArseInTheDogBowl · 18/01/2023 09:33

If you aren't a single mum @WineDup you probably don't understand how flippant comments around 'gender norms' and suggestions that dads are as likely to make the pancakes as mums are really bloody irritating. Taking single parents out of it, you know women do this stuff more than men. Why is it down to us to force change in these 'norms'? Why can't men just step up to it? And why aren't we allowed to acknowledge on here that is women stuck doing this stuff without a lecture?

Note the 'gender norm' of men being far more likely to bugger off and not bother with parenting much beyond Disney dad moments.

CousinKrispy · 18/01/2023 09:37

I am American and have so many delicious pancake recipes ... tragically my daughter prefers the thin British roll-up kind 😭

WineDup · 18/01/2023 09:42

ArseInTheDogBowl · 18/01/2023 09:33

If you aren't a single mum @WineDup you probably don't understand how flippant comments around 'gender norms' and suggestions that dads are as likely to make the pancakes as mums are really bloody irritating. Taking single parents out of it, you know women do this stuff more than men. Why is it down to us to force change in these 'norms'? Why can't men just step up to it? And why aren't we allowed to acknowledge on here that is women stuck doing this stuff without a lecture?

Note the 'gender norm' of men being far more likely to bugger off and not bother with parenting much beyond Disney dad moments.

Literally nobody said that men are as likely to make pancakes as women though.

These gender norms harm everyone - my partner went to change my son and there was nowhere to do so as the changing room was in the female toilet. Most baby groups are called “mother and toddler groups” so it excludes men (single and otherwise) from attending (even if they would be welcomed by the group members when they actually got there) and it’s also viewed far less favourably when a man needs to take time off work for child related reasons than a woman (“can’t their mum do it?”)

Its up to everyone. We are the ones raising the next generation of these horrible, useless men (in your eyes) and the language we use is what will be their norm. I’m not bringing my son OR daughter up to think that pancakes are a woman’s job.

If it’s not our responsibility as parents, then who’s is it?

Jeezypeepers · 18/01/2023 09:45

WineDup · 18/01/2023 08:37

It freaks me out when I order pancakes and get crepes.

I wonder what English people call Scottish pancakes if they call our crepes pancakes?

Someone settle this for me please.

@WineDup I’ve heard them called both scotch pancakes and drop scones down south 🥞

Weddi · 18/01/2023 09:46

Personally prefer them to British pancakes so go ahead, I’m sure the kids will be thrilled.

ArseInTheDogBowl · 18/01/2023 09:52

@WineDup where did I call men horrible and useless? Men who don't bother to parent their children clearly are though.

You clearly are unable to even imagine the POV of a single mum in these scenarios so there's no point in me responding to you. I mean LOL at telling a single mum it's less favourable for men to take time off. Do you think employers look favourably on it for women too? Try being the only option in every scenario.

Hellsmovie · 18/01/2023 10:10

American pancakes are the best.

GinoVino · 18/01/2023 11:48

DeFacto · 18/01/2023 09:27

Why 'pancake day' it's Shrove Tuesday surely?

That's akin to calling Christmas 'present day'.

If you're going to celebrate it, at least acknowledge its proper name!

Cooking some pancakes isn't celebrating Shrove Tuesday. News flash: most people aren't practicing Christians, most people aren't going to fast during lent and most people are perfectly entitled to call it Pancake Day. Most people who celebrate Christmas aren't Christians. Shock horror hit some even follow different religions!!! I'm my Church of England household growing up we also called it Pancake day by the way. Because we don't all have a stick up our bum and can appreciate a bit of fun for children.

Couldnot · 18/01/2023 11:52

Viperama · 18/01/2023 07:23

Thank you so much everyone. Pretty unanimous I am not being unreasonable,
so American pancakes it is!

Here is the recipe I use for those that have asked:
300g self-raising flour
1 tsp baking powder
1 tbsp sugar (any kind)
1 tbsp vanilla extract
400ml plant-based milk (such as oat,
almond or soya)
1 tbsp vegetable oil for cooking

Do you need to rest the batter?

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 18/01/2023 11:54

Any cold pancake would be gross, but yours sound fine if they will all be served cold!

Viperama · 18/01/2023 12:11

No I don’t rest the batter. I use a proper cast iron pan topping up with more olive oil every two rounds. And I quickly pop our fave blueberry topping straight onto batter as soon as it first goes down. Then flipping over it cooks nicely and goes all squishy inside. I make a big batch and eat fresh with maple syrup and freeze any left overs immediately for easy breakfasts mid week. Just defrost in fridge the night before and pop in oven to warm.

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Needmorelego · 18/01/2023 12:23

@Viperama I really would check what they want the pancakes for. Are they actually for eating or doing a pancake flip race?
The typical Pancake Day pancakes are gross eaten cold so I can't imagine they are actually expecting the kids to eat them?