Trips are off because of a couple of adults and what they did?

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I volunteer at a centre and we do trips out for centre users?

On the recent trip out a couple of the adults got in a strangers car and now the boss has said there are no more trips because of what they did? Is this harsh?
The adults that did this were Ok by the way?

Why would the adults get in a strangers car?
What is the centre for - are they vulnerable adults if it is a community trip?

Are they vulnerable adults and do you have a duty of care towards them?

No one can advise without knowing more about the situation.

The adults are centre users? Or staff?

Who are the users?

That's a lot of questions. And I still don't understand what you're asking.

I think you mean that you are unhappy that the boss has decided to follow their risk assessment and not allow trips to continue, as the risk of a service user and/or volunteer getting in to a stranger's car and not being ok (or vice versa - the stranger not being ok), is not being managed.
In which case your only course of action is to demonstrate how that risk can be managed, or stop taking the risk - doesn't seem harsh to me at all, sounds entirely reasonable.

I think if you were meant to be responsible for the adults safety and let them down then yeah seems fair enough

Adults are centre users, its a small charity.
They went on a walk separately from others, and got abit lost I believe. I wasnt actually at that one.

Are they vulnerable?

I presume you're referring to vulnerable adults? You've ignored several others asking this. If so, this is a massive safeguarding situation that should not have happened. It doesn't matter if they are ok. There needs to be an internal investigation into what went wrong and why these people weren't being properly supervised. The boss isn't being harsh, they are being sensible and probably following policy.

Is it because they can't get enough supervision to ensure that this never happens again ?

im not ignoring people give us a chance,
Yes vulnerable adults.

Two vulnerable adults got into a strangers car and you don’t think this is a big deal??? 😮

Seems reasonable to me. Why do you think it isn't? It's a bit worrying that you don't.

No it's not harsh it was a major safeguarding fail.

You sound well intended but naive OP

This will have caused a massive headache for those involved were you work, safeguarding referrals and all sorts. If the Centre can't show it can manage risk and keep people safe it could be closed.

The trips need to stop, they’re vulnerable and were inadequately supervised leading to a risky situation. It probably also needs reporting to safeguarding!

So it's not a punishment then, it's more "no more trips at the moment because there are massive safeguarding issues that need addressing"?

Well if they are vulnerable adults then the centre aren’t being unreasonable.
They would fail their risk assessment for trips out if they can’t keep people safe when they have a duty of care for them.

You really don’t see anything wrong with vulnerable people being allowed to wonder off and get in a strangers car??

Imagine it was a group of 8 year olds, it’s directly comparable.

It’s quite alarming that you don’t see the massive failure here.

I agree with him.

If staff aren't supervising properly on trips to the point 2 adults could have been abducted then they do need to stop!

He’s not being harsh. He’s doing his job by ending trips until he’s confident that he won’t end up with more vulnerable adults put in unsafe situations.

Did the risk assessment allow the service users to leave the main group? If the group was meant to stay together then the trip leader cocked up allowing them to separate.

The manager has a duty of care to uphold.

Have you had safeguarding training or any other training and support pertinent to your role?

yes agree, they arent going to happen again though, they are off now.

As the Mother of an young adult DS who has SLD and is extremely vulnerable who attends a similar centre, I would be insisting that trips stopped until this was correctly dealt with.

My DS is totally non verbal too so couldn't even speak up if he was driven off by a stranger.

That is a massive safeguarding issue and I am a bit concerned that you are questioning it tbh.

The Manager is doing his/her job.

That is a massive safe guarding issue. Two vunerable people, getting into a strangers car. A staff member should have walked with those two.