Trips are off because of a couple of adults and what they did?

[girlfriend44]

I volunteer at a centre and we do trips out for centre users?

On the recent trip out a couple of the adults got in a strangers car and now the boss has said there are no more trips because of what they did? Is this harsh?
The adults that did this were Ok by the way?

So were they supposed to be supervised meaning a lack of supervision resulting in an incident occurring where the service users could be harmed having occurred? In that case I think it’s entirely appropriate that day trips are cancelled.

Sounds like the las straw.

gave any of the trip supervising adults taken responsibility for what happened?

Wandering off and getting lost isn't great.
It's sad if trips get cancelled, maybe work with the manager to think of a workable supervision plan to get the possibility back on the table.

What the fuck is wrong with you?!!

Your title, a couple of adults and what they did actually turns out to be a couple of vulnerable adults who use a center went missing on an outing and ended up in a strangers car and tou are trying to justify this?!

You did seem to start the thread with some down playing in mind (the thread title as an example), if the manager knows the volunteers don't take this as seriously as they need to that will away the decision towards caution.

I think the fact you as a volunteer think this is harsh is worrying.

it is obvious the centre can’t provide the right level of supervision at the moment so of course trips can’t go ahead until things have been risk assessed as a lot of extra measures put in place

team manager
where were the people who were supposed to be looking after them,I'd be very concerned

It’s very worrying that you don’t see this as a big deal. Fucking hell

The fact that you are working with vulnerable people and you are down playing this is a massive worry.

Why weren't they supervised and had the opportunity to get in a strangers car by themselves? How do you know that they are ok and nothing happened to them?

This is shocking!

He's doing his job. Correct decision if these vulnerable adults can't be kept safe.

So you DO agree that trips have to stop (because of massive safeguarding issues). Am I right? What, then, is the point of your post?

You post, not articulately, that there is this situation at the centre you work at, that trips have had to stop because two vulnerable adults nearly went off with a stranger in their car, and ask if it's fair/harsh that the centre has made this decision. But then later say you weren't actually even on that particular trip. I'm just not understanding why this is even anything to do with you, frankly.

How on EARTH did two service users wander off and get into a car?! This is such a massive safeguarding breach.

Have you had any safeguarding training at all? How are you not understanding how dangerous this is?

I hope CQC has been notified as clearly the service isn’t up to standard and that was a threat to safety.

The staff, including volunteers, need some serious retraining if vulnerable adults were able to get lost and get in a stranger's car.
Can you imagine YOUR outcry OP had that been your child?

Agreed. I wonder if OP was the person responsible for looking after them, didn’t do her job properly and now has the arses she can’t skive on day trips anymore?

Don't volunteers get any kind of training on safeguarding and supervision in general?

What happened sounds horrendous. If that was a relative of mine, as a sibling of someone with a learning disability who accesses community support I'd be questioning how on earth that happened, what training people have had, what risk assessments had been made and wouldn't feel at all confident that the service could take adequate care of them at all until a full investigation had happened and issues dealt with.

@girlfriend44
You should show your OP to the centre manager.

Or read Risk Assessments?

OP, I'm the mother of a severely autistic boy who also has significant learning disabilities. He will (assuming all such provision hasn't been axed by then) attend a similar sort of 'centre' when he's an adult, I'd imagine. The fact that someone works with people like my son - volunteer or paid - and can't see the issues with this scenario frankly terrifies me. You sound, not to put too fine a point on it, thick as mince if you can't understand why trips have had to stop and that it was a huge safeguarding issue. I mean, it's the sort of scenario that could potentially get a place closed down.

I'm terrified that provision like this is staffed by people who can't understand safeguarding basics, or why they have to be in place. Jeez.

Pausing the trips sounds sensible given that these are vulnerable adults.

What are you doing to suggest better ways to manage this to ensure there's adequate supervision during trips?

Of course it’s not harsh. This could have gone catastrophically and tragically wrong. Can you not see that? Thank God they are OK.

Let us know which place it was then we can avoid it. I am equally concerned by both the incident, and that you, as a volunteer who should have some safeguarding awareness in your role, don't understand that this is a big deal.

No not harsh at all! I work with vulnerable in the NHS. People should be trained with safeguarding policies in place, charity or not, to make sure that never happens.
The volunteers were obviously not properly trained and also not aware of the level of needs of the adults in questions.
I would be horrified if that happened in my department.

Were the two people who got in the car OK?

Did the stranger with the car help them?

If the scenario you describe actually happened - and I hope it didn't - then your attitude towards it is very concerning.

The adults that did this were Ok by the way?

This is the kind of attitude that drove me insane when I worked with children.

Just because it turned out ok in the end does not make it ok. That luck held out on that occasion is not a basis for doing the same things again.

You might be able to take a short cut across a motorway once without getting knocked down, but that wouldn’t make it a safe thing to repeat!!